The thing is, we’re presumptive when we try to figure out what an abbreviation is short for. It could just as easily be an abbreviation of {romuluSngan Duj} and {romulusngan yo’}.
On Nov 10, 2021, at 3:08 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
According to KCD the {romuluSngan Sambogh 'ej HoHbogh nejwI'} or "Romulan hunter-killer probe" has a short form: {HoHwI'} -- i.e. a "killer". It's likely that {romuluS Duj} and {romuluS yo'} are short for the longer and more cumbersome {romuluS Hov wo' Duj} "ship of the Romulan Star Empire" and {romuluS Hov wo' yo'} "fleet of the Romulan Star Empire".
I'm guessing that when Klingons use {romuluS} in this way they're referring to official things of the Romulan Empire -- i.e. the empire of (the planet) Romulus -- not the empire of the Romulan people or {romuluSnganpu' wo'}, a subtle but significant difference.
Voragh
-----------------------------------Original Message----------------------------------- From: tlhIngan-Hol On Behalf Of luis.chaparro@web.de
Voragh:
The basic idea is that {romuluSngan} refers to people and things related to them while {romuluS} refers to things characteristic of the planet, like {romuluS muD} the Romulan atmosphere, {romuluS Hovtay'} the Romulan star system, etc. So a {romuluSngan Sambogh 'ej HoHbogh nejwI'} was invented and/or originally used by or against Romulans (people) and the {loSmaH romuluSngan SuvwI'pu'} Kang killed were Romulan people too.
Sorry if I ask again: I understand what you mean with *romuluS muD* and *romuluS Hovtay'* as *things characteristic of the planet*, even *romuluS Ha'DIbaH*, but then we have these examples:
Voragh:
romuluS yo' wIjeyta' We've defeated the Romulan fleet. KGT [....] boq lucherDI' tlhIngan wo' romuluS Hov wo' je So'wI' cham Suqpu' tlhIngan wo'. Cloaking technology was gained through an alliance with the Romulan Star Empire... S33 [....] Dujon romuluS Duj Captured by Romulan ship. MKE
Especially the last one makes no much sense to me if compared to *romuluSngan Sambogh 'ej HoHbogh nejwI'*. A *Duj* or a *nejwI'* are both things invented/used by the (Romulan) people and not directly things charasteristic of their planet (?).
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