meq DamoghchoHmoHbogh vIlajchu' ; tlhIHvaD nuv qab jIHba'. I understand your frustration ; you obviously believe I'm the bad guy. 'ach (potlhqu'bogh wa' ghelmeH mu'tlhegh napqu') Daqelbe'ba' : naDev, 'Iv mawbejta' 'Iv. but obviously you're not considering one -so simple yet so important- question: who actually offended who in this list. ngoDmey potlh tu'lu', ngaDmey DaSovbe'bogh. there are important facts, which you do not know. toH, qawmeH tawDaq mayItjaj.. so, lets take a stroll down memory lane.. naDev vIpawta'DI', 'oH ghelmeH mu'tlhegh wa'DIchwIj'e' : darthvaD mu' tu'lu'a' ? as soon as I arrived here, my first question was : is there a word for darth ? 'a SIbI' - (QIn ngeHmeH Daq'e' ghajbogh ghaH neH) lo'taHvIS, jIHvaD jatlhlu'ta': but immediately, someone contacted me off list and said : mu'mey chu'vaD yIghelbe' ! mu'mey chu'vaD bIgheltaHchugh, vaj pIlajQo'. don't ask for new words ! if you continue asking you will be banned. 'ej mawchu'meH mu'mey lo'ta'. and the way he said this was quite rude. religious terminologyDaq QIn ghom, tlhIngan ghojmeH mIwvaD maja'chuq ; 'ej (QIn ngeHmeH Daq'e' ghajbogh ghaH neH) lo'taHvIS, jIHvaD jatlhqa'lu': at the religious terminology thread, we were discussing the klingon learning process ; and again I was threatened off-list : tlhIngan Hol Dalo'be'chugh, vaj pIlajQo'. if you don't use klingon, then you will be banned. 'a -ngugh- chay' tlhIngan Hol vIlo'laH jay' ? taghwI' neH jIH. but at that time, how could I be able to use klingon ? I was just a beginner. DaH, qaStaHvIS jar veb, pabvaD jIgheltaHvIS - pab naDlu'Qo'bogh -, jIHvaD mu'mey Doch lujatlhqa'lu'ta'. during the next months, even while I was asking for grammar, but grammar which someone didn't approve, then again rude words were said. 'ej jIjatlhta'DI' : mojaq chu' vIparHa' vaj poSchoHpu' ghe''or lojmIt ! and when I said : I would like a new suffix, once more the gates of hell opened ! 'ach peloS ! qaSbogh latlh wanI' law' tulu' je.. but wait ! there is more.. reH, naDev pawta'DI' vay' 'ej mu'meyDaj qab law' mu'mey'wIj qab puS, bep pagh ! pagh'e' ! always, whenever here some new guy arrived, whose requests were way more absurd than mine, noone complained ! noone ! wa'logh jatlhta' vay' : vatlh law' mu' ghajDI' tlhIngan Hol, ngugh vIghajqang ! qaSpa' ghu'vam vIghojQo ! someone once wrote : only when klingon possesses several thousands words, I will be willing to learn it. not before ! 'ej ngugh chay' Suvang ? Subep'a' ? ghobe' ! ghaHvaD jeghta' Hochmey po'wI'pu' ! and then what did you do ? did you complain ? of course not ! all senior members surrendered. tlhIngan Hol ghojqangQo'bogh vay'vaD, Sujeghta'.. for someone who didn't want to learn klingon you surrendered.. mu'meyDaj vIjatlhta'DI', qaSpu'pa' wa' lup neH, tuHIvbej. if I had spoken his words, you would have attacked me in an instant. DaH.. 'Iv jImawpu' ? pIqarD, wo'rIv ? yInbogh nuv chaH'a' ? who did I offend ? picard ? worf ? are they real persons ? nuv lujallu'ta'bogh chaH jay' ! toH, nuq 'oH qay'wI''e' jay' ? they are FICTIONAL characters ! so what's the problem ? mu' {'op}'e' lo'ta' 'op be'pu' QIn. mu' {Hoch} lo'be'ta'. the 'op be'pu' message used the word {'op}, not the word {Hoch}. 'ej ghojmeH nabwIj vIchenmoHta'mo', meqvammo' DaH tupIch ? and because I created a plan in order to learn, because of that reason you blame me ? SIbI'Ha' mejta'ghachwIj bopmo' nabwIj, tupIch ? because my plan eventually concerns my leaving, you blame me ? 'ach, DaH qaStaH DungluQ, 'ej qa'vInwIj vItlhutlhnISbej. but now its noon, and I really need to drink my coffee. DaHjaj qeqmeH mIwvaD -jIHvaD mIw boqaSchoHmoHbogh-, qatlho'.. for today's training -which you provided for me-, I thank you.. On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 12:26 PM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
On 15 June 2016 at 10:09, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
juppu' vISuqmeH naDev jIHbe'. 'ej jIHvaD pagh 'oH tlhIngan Hol nugh laj'e'. pagh'e' ! pagh'e' !
tlhIngan Hol DaghojtaH 'e' mevlaHbe' tlhIngan Hol nugh. 'ach DunaDHa'laHbej.
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