I think that Jackson is right. AFAIK all the items tagged with {naH} or {naHmey} are Terran: banan naH banana mengho' naH mango pIlam naH plum ghIrep naHmey grapes per naHmey pears raSber naHmey raspberries Sutra'ber naHmey strawberries tomat naHmey tomatoes 'epIl naHmey apples I couldn’t find any native Klingon fruit or vegetables tagged with {naH}. And why would they be? Every Klingon knows what a {peb’ot} or a {Hurgh} is! But what in the world is a {‘epIl} or a {banan}? A few alien fruit, vegetables, plants or animals are preceded by the planet name however : tera’ bIQ lung’a’ alligator, crocodile tera’ cheS rabbit tera' la'SIv turtle tera’ lIr owl tera' nagh DIr charwI’ snail, slug tera' na'ran orange tera' na'ran'a' grapefruit tera' na'ran wIb lemon tera' peb'ot cucumber tera' yav 'atlhqam mushrooms tera’ ‘arDeH ivy Note that none of these are also tagged with {naH} since everyone knows what they are as there are probably Klingon versions of all these. A {tera’ na’ran’a’} is that big na’ran-looking thing from Earth, while a {tera' na'ran wIb} is that sour-tasting na’ran-like fruit. (Everyone knows that a proper {na’ran} is sweet!) -- Voragh Ca'Non Master of the Klingons --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> On Behalf Of Jackson Bradley True, but my understanding was that, since it's a word of foreign origin and presumably one only recently borrowed into the language, it requires the *naH* to let everyone know that it's a fruit/vegetable we're talking about. Le lun. 18 nov. 2019, à 12 h 32, Lieven L. Litaer <levinius@gmx.de<mailto:levinius@gmx.de>> a écrit : Am 18.11.2019 um 19:21 schrieb Jackson Bradley:
To be clear: did he say /tanje'rIn/ or /tanje'rIn naH/?
According to Qov's story, he said {tanje'rIn}. But I would not put too much weight on that. It's very likely that he simply forgot that all fruits have the {naH} complement, and on the other hand, I have noticed that many people cheat in those cases saying {'epIl vISop} and everyone understands. http://www.klingonwiki.net/Word/Tanje-rIn I mean, what would be the difference between {tanje'rIn} and {tanje'rIn naH}? Just my opinion, of course.