qovIj canine-like creature (smaller than a {ngavyaw'}) (n) (qep’a’ 2019) “a smaller animal, similar to Kruge's pet” (qep’a’ 2019) ngavyaw' canine-like creature (larger than a {qovIj}) (n) (qep’a’ 2019) “a large animal, like the creatures that accompany the guards on Rura Penthe” (qep’a’ 2019) qeSHoS fox (n) (TLP) "A Klingon animal that's kind of dog-like. They eat vegetation and also small animals and birds. Klingons, of course, might eat them, but mostly consider them pests." (TLP) Qogh type of animal (a common pet) PK; *krol* (?) Does this refer to Kruge's pet reptile-dog, Warrigul, who sat next to him on the bridge of his Bird-of-Prey. (ST3) (see https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Klingon_monster_dog and http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Warrigul ) - qu'bej QoghlIj Your *krol* is definitely fierce. [a compliment] (PK) - "We will repay this bartender, who sent us chasing wild {Qoghmey}." (KCD novel p.108) I read these not as stages in one creature's life (embryo, fetus, puppy, adult), but as different breeds of various "canine-like" creatures. E.g. the small chihuahua, dachshund, or toy poodle vs. the much larger Great Dane, malamut, or husky. I don't think we know how to refer to the young of any animal (puppies, kittens, foals, etc.), just people: {ghu} "baby" and {puq} "child, offspring". Some people have also used ANIMAL{Hom} or ANIMAL {Qup}. -- Voragh Ca'Non Master of the Klingons ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- Original Message ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> On Behalf Of mayqel qunen'oS Suppose you have a full-grown (or is it fully-grown ?), german shepherd. Would you characterize it as {qovIj} or a {ngavyaw'} ? And lets say, you have a {ngavyaw'} puppy. Would you characterize it, as a {ngavyaw'} or a {qovIj} ? Or would you play it safe, and say {ngavyaw' ghu} ? And, to take this to the limit.. If you had a {qovIj} which took steroids and grew the size of a small car, how would you say it ? On the contrary, if a {ngavyaw'}, matured chronologically, never attaining the expected size, but remained very small, would you still call it a {ngavyaw'} ?