[tlhIngan Hol] joining numbers used for numbering by {je} and conjunctions

Will Martin willmartin2 at mac.com
Tue Mar 22 07:28:23 PDT 2022


Not that it matters, but I would be inclined to say {cha’e’ wa’ cha’ je tIbuy’choHmoH}. 

Then the numbers are obviously being used as nouns and the conjunction clearly makes sense. 

I’m not suggesting that you are wrong. I’m just sharing how I’d do it. On the topic of torpedoes, flood one and two. 

It could be misinterpreted, of course, just as your suggestion could be misinterpreted as”Flood the torpedo and one and two.” You’d flood four items. 

charghwI’

> On Mar 22, 2022, at 8:25 AM, mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> In a previous thread we wrote:
> 
> (http://lists.kli.org/pipermail/tlhingan-hol-kli.org/2022-March/019526.html)
> 
> ****** Previous thread starts ******
> 
> jIH:
> > I want to say:
> > We fought the romulans during the second and third century
> > So I write:
> > qaStaHvIS vatlh DIS poH cha'DIch wejDIch je, romuluSngan DISuv
> > Would joining ordinals by {je} or any other conjunction be considered to be 
> > correct?
> SuStel:
> > Dunno if we have evidence, but numbers of all sorts are noun-like enough that
> > I have no trouble treating them like nouns, even if they're not being used in the > way that TKD describes using numbers as nouns.
> > If you want to be certain of correctness, you could of course say qaStaHvIS 
> > vatlh DIS poH cha'DIch, vatlh DIS poH wejDIch je.But I wouldn't bother.
> 
> ****** Previous thread ends ******
> 
> I was going to ask whether we can join numbers used for numbering such as:
> 
> flood torpedo tubes one and two
> DuS wa' cha' je tIbuy'choHmoH
> 
> However, I think this must be pretty straightforward, since it's just {wa'} and {cha'} being placed after the noun instead of being placed before it.
> 
> So I'm just writing this as a separate thread for the purpose of archiving this matter, thus avoiding to be asking about it again in the future. 
> 
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