[tlhIngan Hol] {vaj} the english "so" and joining multiple {-bogh} phrases by {vaj}

D qunen'oS mihkoun at gmail.com
Thu Jul 21 04:53:42 PDT 2022


ghunchu'wI':
> The “adverb” kind of “so” doesn’t match the Klingon {vaj}. Look up
“therefore” instead.

Ok, I looked it up, and yes, the English "therefore" matches my
understanding of {vaj}. Thanks.

SuStel:
> I think what you have here is your
> usual habit of splicing sentences inside
> sentences. It just doesn't work here.

I rethought all this, and I understood that indeed you're right; I was
trying to put one sentence into the other, even while I didn't realize I
was trying to do that. But now I started wondering about something else.

The way I understand a {-bogh} phrase, it's essentially a "miniature
sentence", meaning that in front of it we can have everything that can be
in front of the ovs. So far so good.

And in the case where we have two {-bogh} phrases joined by a conjunction,
then it's like having two "miniature sentences" joined by a conjunction, so
-logically- we can have everything that can be in front of the ovs
preceding each of the {-bogh} baby sentences. Or just one of them.

So, why does the second {-bogh} miniature sentence always need to be
understood as a parenthetical sentence?

Suppose I write:

yaS HoHpu' bombogh yan 'ej reH vuQbogh
the officer was killed by the singing sword which always fascinates

Or

yaS HoHpu' bombogh yan 'ej ghIq ngabbogh
the officer was killed by the sword which sings and subsequently vanishes

I can understand and "feel" why in the {rIQchoHmoHbogh nuH ('ej} vaj
'oy'choHmoHbogh} the {vaj 'oy'choHmoHbogh} is a parenthetical miniature
sentence.

But in the singing sword examples I can't feel anything parenthetical in
the second {-bogh}.

So I guess the question is this:

In the case of sentences as the ones already mentioned, is the second
{-bogh} phrase to be always understood as a parenthetical phrase? Or the
distinction between what is parenthetical and what isn't, is rather based
on context instead of whether it's being preceded by an adverb?

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Dana'an
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