[tlhIngan Hol] difference between the nouns {Segh} and {mut}

janSIy . kenjutsuka at live.com
Thu Jan 27 05:40:05 PST 2022


ghItlh Dana'an:

> So, the "take home point" (as Americans say), is that if we say "the
> human species", this confers a broader meaning than just saying "the
> human race".

Sometimes yes and sometimes no.  I don't know that English speakers (or at least Americans) are that careful about them and sometimes they use "race" to mean "species".  Sometimes we even use "species" to mean something other than "genetic species".

> So, perhaps, the more accurate would be "the survival of the human
> species", while saying "the survival of the human race" can mean
> exactly the same, but perhaps it has the added flavor, that in the end
> we're all one people, needing to put aside any racial conflicts.

I think you might be right that it is used in English as a rhetorical device in exactly that way.

> Unless someone disagrees with the above, that's how I'll be using
> {Segh}/{mut} from now on.

I suspect that {mut} is much more scientific and exact for Klingons.  So the usage could be a little different like {tlhIngan Segh} would mean "Klingons and Klingons only", but {tlhIngan mut} could mean, "Klingons and other humanoids".  I'm not sure Klingons would say {Human mut} since apparently Humans and Klingons are both the same {mut}.  So in the Star Trek universe {Human Segh} would be better and could be translated as "humankind".  I suppose that based on Star Trek races/species, we could be accurate to say {yoq mut}.

Jeremy
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