[tlhIngan Hol] *-moH* with verbs of state / quality

[SuStel]

On 11/17/2021 9:49 AM, luis.chaparro at web.de wrote:
> Thanks again to both of you for the detailed discussion! I will try to summerize it (for beginners like me:-)  Please tell me if I'm right:
>
> 1. We can use *-moH* or *-choHmoH* depending on wether we want to express or focus on the end result (*-moH*) or the change (*-choHmoH*) someone or something is causing.

I wasn't stating a general rule; I was analyzing a specific sentence. 
Not all verbs will see a difference between an end result or a change. 
For instance, if I say *tlhIngan Hol vIghojmoH*/I teach Klingon,/ I'm 
not focusing on an end result; I am just talking about an existing 
action. If I say *tlhIngan Hol vIghojchoHmoH* /I start teaching 
Klingon,/ I am talking about the beginning of an action.

Don't look for a formulaic interpretation of combinations of suffixes. 
Analyze each verb as you find it.


>   If someone wants to cook and her / his hands are really dirty, I'll probably be interested on emphasize that I want her / his hands to*become*  clean, so I'll likely use *-choHmoH*. If I just recommend someone to be*generally*  clean, I'll likely use *-moH*.

Or if you want to recommend someone maintain a regular cleaning regimen 
(*Hoch jaj nuHlIj yISay'moH*/Clean your weapon every day/). Or if you 
just want to explain how something becomes clean without describing the 
transition of going from dirty to clean (*raS DaSay'moHmeH, taSvam 
yIlo'*/Use this solution to clean the table/). There are lots of uses 
for *-moH* with or without *-choH,* and you have to figure them out as 
needed. Don't try to come up with a simple formula to follow.


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SuStel
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