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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/17/2021 9:49 AM,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:luis.chaparro@web.de">luis.chaparro@web.de</a> wrote:<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Thanks again to both of you for the detailed discussion! I will try to summerize it (for beginners like me <span class="moz-smiley-s1" title=":-)"><span>:-)</span></span> Please tell me if I'm right:
1. We can use *-moH* or *-choHmoH* depending on wether we want to express or focus on the end result (*-moH*) or the change (*-choHmoH*) someone or something is causing.</pre>
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<p>I wasn't stating a general rule; I was analyzing a specific
sentence. Not all verbs will see a difference between an end
result or a change. For instance, if I say <b>tlhIngan Hol
vIghojmoH</b><i> I teach Klingon,</i> I'm not focusing on an end
result; I am just talking about an existing action. If I say <b>tlhIngan
Hol vIghojchoHmoH</b> <i>I start teaching Klingon,</i> I am
talking about the beginning of an action.</p>
<p>Don't look for a formulaic interpretation of combinations of
suffixes. Analyze each verb as you find it.<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> If someone wants to cook and her / his hands are really dirty, I'll probably be interested on emphasize that I want her / his hands to <b class="moz-txt-star"><span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span>become<span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span></b> clean, so I'll likely use *-choHmoH*. If I just recommend someone to be <b class="moz-txt-star"><span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span>generally<span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span></b> clean, I'll likely use *-moH*.</pre>
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<p>Or if you want to recommend someone maintain a regular cleaning
regimen (<b>Hoch jaj nuHlIj yISay'moH</b><i> Clean your weapon
every day</i>). Or if you just want to explain how something
becomes clean without describing the transition of going from
dirty to clean (<b>raS DaSay'moHmeH, taSvam yIlo'</b><i> Use this
solution to clean the table</i>). There are lots of uses for <b>-moH</b>
with or without <b>-choH,</b> and you have to figure them out as
needed. Don't try to come up with a simple formula to follow.</p>
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