[tlhIngan Hol] where the adverb refers and {tlhoS}

Will Martin willmartin2 at mac.com
Fri Aug 27 06:29:53 PDT 2021

I think you guys have gone overboard with this thin-ice argument that Klingon adverbials CAN BE TRANSLATED to apply to things other than either the verb (most commonly), or in special cases where the context clarifies WTF you are talking about, nouns.

A simpler truth is that your precious, exceptional English translations would only make sense if the English translation had the same context that the Klingon expression did, and if it HAD that context, you would, like the Klingon expression, not need the emphasis you are putting on it.

I maintain that adverbials apply to verbs or to whole sentences, and if you want to weight the meaning toward specific non-verb words in the sentence, you need very special context, and if you have that context, you don’t need to add weight to make the English translation mean something other than what the Klingon sentence actually means, which is either a verb or whole-sentence application of the adverbial.


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(ghaH, ghaH, -Daj)

> On Aug 27, 2021, at 7:43 AM, mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
> SuStel:
>> That's why vabDot and tlhoS work similarly.
> I think that adverbs having to do with the frequency of an action
> (i.e. pIj, pIjHa', roD, rut) work similarly:
> pIj qama' DaqIp SoH
> you often *hit* prisoners
> often *you* hit prisoners
> you hit often *prisoners*
> And perhaps other adverbs too can be understood multiple ways:
> jaS be'vaD bIjatlh SoH
> you differently *speak* for women
> differently *you* speak for women
> you speak for *women* differently
> ~ D
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