[tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: nIve'Da'

Steven Boozer sboozer at uchicago.edu
Mon Oct 19 07:18:31 PDT 2020

Any other examples where the final /t/ has been “realized as a glottal stop” or just dropped?  I quickly skimmed my notes but couldn’t find one.

From: Brent Kesler [bI'reng]
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 9:03 AM

I don't know if this influenced MO, but in the Midwestern accent, final /t/ is often realized as a glottal stop. So {DItroy'} makes sense to me.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 4:26 PM Voragh <sboozer at uchicago.edu<mailto:sboozer at uchicago.edu>> wrote:
When I saw {DItroy’} I thought Okrand was attempting to render the French pronunciation – sort of! - or perhaps an odd mix of French and English.  Fort Pontchartrain du Détroit<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Pontchartrain_du_D**Atroit__;w6k!!BpyFHLRN4TMTrA!uvEu5DXhJHWaOw6Pj8N3-s5pyUzPBSCBKgD1axuqeZtqbz3845VHxs_36anA6HbXTPg$> was originally a French fort founded in 1701.

Or not wanting to add an extra vowel he could also have simply dropped the final consonant, such as {'entepray'} Enterprise, {lIHtentay’} Liechtenstein and {‘oSteray’} Österreich.  He routinely does this with Terran names ending in –land:  {DoyIchlan} Deutschland, {ne'Derlan} Netherlands, {'Inglan} England, {SIqotlan} Scotland, {nu'SIylan} New Zealand and {‘ISlan} Iceland.

From: nIqolay Q
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2020
On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 2:23 PM SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name<mailto:sustel at trimboli.name>> wrote:
On 10/12/2020 2:04 PM, nIqolay Q wrote:
On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 10:45 AM Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu<mailto:sboozer at uchicago.edu>> wrote:
Thanks for the source. I was perusing the qep'a' 2020 new words list over the weekend and discovered another one {DItroy'} Detroit.
 Interesting example of using a glottal stop to transliterate a "t" in a syllable that otherwise already ends in a consonant.

The final t in Detroit is not aspirated the way a Klingon t always is. A glottal stop is actually closer in sound to the unaspirated t.
Aspiration doesn't seem to play much of a role in transliterations. In the case of "Detroit", you can't just transliterate the final syllable as -oyt, because -oyt isn't an allowed syllable ending in Klingon phonotactics. Sometimes, Okrand deals with this (consonant after diphthong) by adding another syllable: "Deutsch" (in "Deutschland") -> *Doych -> DoyIch. But in this case, since ' is similar to "t", and -oy' is an allowed Klingon syllable ending, you can just do that.
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