[tlhIngan Hol] More gender

Will Martin willmartin2 at mac.com
Thu May 30 07:11:23 PDT 2019


Just to offer an alternative that I don’t think I’ve seen voiced yet:

parmaq’e’ loD maSbogh loD ghaH.

and the equivalent {be’} phrase.

Love is love.

charghwI’ vaghnerya’ngan

rInpa’ bomnIS be’’a’ pI’.




> On May 29, 2019, at 12:53 PM, John R. Harness <cartweel at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  I've started using Har'ey, rainbow, to refer to LGBTQ+ people: Har'ey tach, Har'eynganpu', Har'ey loD ghaH'a' etc. DeSDu' and I came up with this while sitting in a gay bar and struggling to talk about it.
> 
> This is decidedly not canon, and has nothing to do with fictional Klingons. I also don't hate le'yo', pride, being used with lgbtq connotations. (Google Klingon Pride and there's a good picture of the Timmins Klingons with a le'yo' sign.) I don't have a good way to be more specific than that, yet. le'yo'ngan ghaH, loD ghaH parmaqqayDaj'e'. ???
> 
> Tangent: Think of the valences maqoch and chaj could take on in some gay/lesbian/bi/pan fiction!
> Another tangent: SIHwI' and SIHmoHwI' for "top" and "bottom."
> 
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> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 11:01 AM Riley Dosh <rjl.dosh at gmail.com <mailto:rjl.dosh at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Qapla'! 
> 
> ghojchoHwI' jIH. tlhIngan Hol vIjatlhHa', 'ach mu'ghom vIlaDlaH. wej ngoDHommey jIHvaD vIghajbe'.
> 
> I noticed talk about neutral gender yesterday, which leads me to ask about LGBT terminology as a whole, since it's heavily gendered language. 
> 
> Concerning trans people, I've defaulted to be' ghe'/be' ghe'pu' and loD ghe'/loD ghe'pu', but I welcome any suggestions.
> 
> As for gay/lesbian/bi and straight people, I'm have no idea, although I know it's been at least implied by MO before. Anybody know how one would say that?
> 
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