<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Just to offer an alternative that I don’t think I’ve seen voiced yet:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">parmaq’e’ loD maSbogh loD ghaH.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">and the equivalent {be’} phrase.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Love is love.</div><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 29, 2019, at 12:53 PM, John R. Harness <<a href="mailto:cartweel@gmail.com" class="">cartweel@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""> I've started using <b class="">Har'ey</b>, rainbow, to refer to LGBTQ+ people: <b class="">Har'ey tach</b>, <b class="">Har'eynganpu</b>', <b class="">Har'ey loD ghaH'a' </b>etc. DeSDu' and I came up with this while sitting in a gay bar and struggling to talk about it.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This is decidedly not canon, and has nothing to do with fictional Klingons. I also don't hate <b class="">le'yo'</b>, pride, being used with lgbtq connotations. (Google Klingon Pride and there's a good picture of the Timmins Klingons with a <b class="">le'yo'</b> sign.) I don't have a good way to be more specific than that, yet. <b class="">le'yo'ngan ghaH, loD ghaH parmaqqayDaj'e'. </b>???</div><div class=""><br class=""></div>Tangent: Think of the valences <b class="">maqoch</b> and <b class="">chaj </b>could take on in some gay/lesbian/bi/pan fiction!<div class="">Another tangent: <b class="">SIHwI' </b>and <b class="">SIHmoHwI'</b> for "top" and "bottom."</div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><font color="#808080" face="Arial, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10.6667px" class=""><br class="">--<br class="">John Harness</span></font></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><font color="#808080" face="Arial, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10.6667px" class="">Mr. / He / Him<br class=""><br class=""><a href="https://thecondoassociation.com/" target="_blank" class="">The Condo Association</a><br class=""></span></font><div class=""><font color="#808080" face="Arial, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:10.6667px" class=""><a href="http://www.kli.org/" target="_blank" class="">Klingon Language Institute</a></span></font></div><div class=""><font color="#808080" face="Arial, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" size="1" class=""><a href="https://conlang.org/" target="_blank" class="">Language Creation Society</a></font></div><div class=""><font color="#808080" face="Arial, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 11:01 AM Riley Dosh <<a href="mailto:rjl.dosh@gmail.com" class="">rjl.dosh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Qapla'! <div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">ghojchoHwI' jIH. tlhIngan Hol vIjatlhHa', 'ach mu'ghom vIlaDlaH. wej ngoDHommey jIHvaD vIghajbe'.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">I noticed talk about neutral gender yesterday, which leads me to ask about LGBT terminology as a whole, since it's heavily gendered language. </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Concerning trans people, I've defaulted to be' ghe'/be' ghe'pu' and loD ghe'/loD<span style="font-family:sans-serif" class=""> ghe'pu', </span>but I welcome any suggestions.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">As for gay/lesbian/bi and straight people, I'm have no idea, although I know it's been at least implied by MO before. Anybody know how one would say that?</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Thanks for maintaining this mailing list.</div></div>
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