[tlhIngan Hol] Does rIntaH require a sentient being ?

[Will Martin]

That strikes me as peculiar. Since {vIje’} has the prefix assigning the subject to that verb, I would expect that for emphasis, if you wanted to add {jIH} it should go after {vIje’}, as in {vIje’ jIH rIntaH}.

Doing it as {vIje’ rIntaH jIH} only makes sense if, given that written Klingon as we know it is phonetic spelling of spoken Klingon, somehow {rIntaH} has become a Type 10 suffix, so it always follows the verb and its other suffixes, and any subject would follow it. Otherwise, I see no justification for {rIntaH jIH}, since as a sentence, it would have to be {jIrIntaH jIH}. 

But as you point out, we have no data, so this is probably not something any of us can say with authority. I just see this as one of those details that isn’t important to resolve, since there are so many other ways of saying what this purports to say without getting weird with the grammar.

charghwI’ vaghnerya’ngan

rInpa’ bomnIS be’’a’ pI’.




> On Mar 8, 2019, at 4:06 PM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
> 
> On 3/8/2019 3:17 PM, Will Martin wrote:
>> {rIntaH} also can follow a sentence to indicate that something is completely done.
>> 
>> Both of these instances involve the verb {rIn} without its own subject, object, or prefix indicating subject or object.
> TKD says that rIntaH follows the verb. No examples of verbs with explicit subjects have occurred, so a strict reading of the text says that vIje' rIntaH jIH is more correct than vIje' jIH rIntaH. I would not be surprised if that weren't an absolute — but again, we have no data.
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