<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">That strikes me as peculiar. Since {vIje’} has the prefix assigning the subject to that verb, I would expect that for emphasis, if you wanted to add {jIH} it should go after {vIje’}, as in {vIje’ jIH rIntaH}.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Doing it as {vIje’ rIntaH jIH} only makes sense if, given that written Klingon as we know it is phonetic spelling of spoken Klingon, somehow {rIntaH} has become a Type 10 suffix, so it always follows the verb and its other suffixes, and any subject would follow it. Otherwise, I see no justification for {rIntaH jIH}, since as a sentence, it would have to be {jIrIntaH jIH}. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But as you point out, we have no data, so this is probably not something any of us can say with authority. I just see this as one of those details that isn’t important to resolve, since there are so many other ways of saying what this purports to say without getting weird with the grammar.</div><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 8, 2019, at 4:06 PM, SuStel <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" class="">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/8/2019 3:17 PM, Will Martin wrote:<br class="">
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<div class="">{rIntaH} also can follow a sentence to indicate that
something is completely done.</div>
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<div class="">Both of these instances involve the verb {rIn}
without its own subject, object, or prefix indicating subject or
object.</div>
</blockquote><p class="">TKD says that <b class="">rIntaH</b> follows the verb. No examples of
verbs with explicit subjects have occurred, so a strict reading of
the text says that <b class="">vIje' rIntaH jIH</b> is more correct than <b class="">vIje'
jIH rIntaH.</b> I would not be surprised if that weren't an
absolute — but again, we have no data.<br class="">
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