[tlhIngan Hol] Are arabic numerals canon ?

nIqolay Q niqolay0 at gmail.com
Wed Sep 27 08:25:20 PDT 2017


My guess is that he writes the numerals out (except in Monopoly) for the
same reason people tend to prefer transliterating proper names to Klingon
instead of just leaving them in *DIvI' Hol* -- it looks more Klingon.

This conversation also reminds me of something very silly I thought of a
few years ago. Since numbers and letters have names that sound like other
words and syllables, you could use them for slang Klingon Internet
abbreviations:
*3! HI4!* *"Don't do it yet! Wait for me!"*
*Sa'9vo' ruqpu' 'Iv?* *"Who farted?"*
*gh'2!* *"Dammit!"*
*uawIjDaq pa' 'oHtaH* "It's over there in my bureau."
*vIpbe'** "I don't regret it."*
*95! **"There's too many people here!"*
*ch' j'?! **"What the hell is going on?!"*
*mIv1wIj Daleghpu'''a'? **"Have you seen my scar?"*
(The original spellings R left as an exercise 2 the reader.)

I assume Klingon teenagers did this all the time as soon as text message
technology was invented on Qo'noS.


On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu>
wrote:

> From the Bird of Prey poster:
>
>
>
>   wejvatlh loSmaH loS vI' vagh wej 'uj 'aD Duj
>
>   Length: 120 M
>
>
>
>   loSmaH jav vI' Soch loS 'uj 'ab meH
>
>   Bridge Height: 16.28 M
>
>
>
>   HIvtaHvIS toQDuj cha'vatlh wejmaH Soch vI' vagh chorgh 'uj 'ab 'oH
>
>   Attack Formation Height: 82.75 M
>
>
>
>   qughtaHvIS toQDuj HutmaH vI' jav wa' 'uj 'ab 'oH
>
>   Cruise Formation Height: 31.56 M
>
>
>
>   SaqtaHvIS toQDuj wa'vatlh loS vI' jav chorgh 'uj 'ab 'oH
>
>   Landing Formation Height: 36.46 M
>
>
>
>   cha' vI' vagh choQmey lutoghlu'
>
>   Number of Decks: 2.5
>
>
>
>   cha' choQmey naQ tu'lu' 'ej tep choQ bIngDaq lo' law' bID choQ tu'lu')
>
>   2 Full Decks and a Half Utility Deck under the Cargo Deck)
>
>
>
>   wejvatlh SochmaH vagh SaD cheb'a'mey ngI' Duj
>
>   Mass: 8.7 KT
>
>
>
>   Hong boq chuyDaH: loS
>
>   Impulse Fusion Thrusters - 4
>
>
>
>   muDDaq 'eDSeHcha lulaQlu'bogh: jav
>
>   Atmospheric Take-Off/Landing Thrusters - 6
>
>
>
>   pIvchem lIngwI' DaHmey: cha'
>
>   Warp Field Generation Arrays - 2
>
>
>
>   pIvchem SeHwI': cha'
>
>   Warp Field Controller - 2
>
>
>
>   qughDo motlh: pIvlob vagh
>
>   Normal Cruising Speed - Warp 5
>
>
>
> Okrand gives all the {tlhIngan Hol} in full words  so that people know how
> to SAY the numbers and phrases.  E.g. How do you say “2.5”? Answer:  {cha’
> vI’ vagh} using {vI’} “decimal point” not {DoD} “mark (in coordinates).
> He’s never said that a technically advanced, space-faring civilization
> doesn’t have numerals.  In fact he’s used numerals in the Monopoly game:
>
>
>
>   voHDajbo' wellu' 200 [140, etc.]
>
>   Mortgaged for 200.
>
>
>
>   ngIq raQ – 200 QaS, mon – 200 QaS loS raQmey je
>
>   Outposts cost 200 each; capitals, 200 each plus 4 outposts
>
>
>
>   ngIq raQ - 150 QaS
>
>   "outposts cost 150 each"
>
>
>
>   ngIq raQvaD cha'maH vagh QaS yInob.
>
>   "For each outpost pay 25 forces."
>
>
>
>   ngIq gholvo' wa'maH QaS yItlhap.
>
>   "Collect 10 forces from every player."
>
>
>
> … and in his HolQeD 9.3 [Sept. 2000] article on simple arithmetic:
>
>
>
>   4 + 3 = 7
>   wej boq loS; chen Soch
>   "four allies with three; seven forms".
>
>   2 + 1 = 3
>   wa' boq cha'; chen wej
>   "two allies with one, three forms."
>
>   4 - 3 = 1
>
>   loS boqHa' wej; chen wa'
>   "three dissociates from four, one forms"
>
>
>
>   2 x 3 = 6
>   cha'logh boq'egh wej; chen jav
>   "twice, three allies with itself, six forms"
>
>   3 x 2
>   wejlogh boq'egh cha'
>   "three times, two allies with itself"
>
>
>
>   6/3 = 2
>   wejlogh boqHa''egh jav; chen cha'
>   "three times, six dissociates from itself, two forms"
>
> --Voragh
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces at lists.kli.org] *On
> Behalf Of *mayqel qunenoS
>
> ghunchu'wI':
>
> > The Bird of Prey poster is rife with numbers. All of them are
>
> > spelled out in Klingon.
>
>
>
> When you say "spelled out in klingon", you mean that they are written in
> pIqaD ?
>
>
>
> qunnoq
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11 Aug 2017 5:11 pm, "ghunchu'wI' 'utlh" <qunchuy at alcaco.net> wrote:
>
> On Aug 11, 2017, at 4:34 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > However, I anxiously await for our honorable Ca'non master to decloak
> his bird of prey,...
>
> The Bird of Prey poster is rife with numbers. All of them are spelled out
> in Klingon.
>
> -- ghunchu'wI'
>
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