<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>My guess is that he writes the numerals out (except in Monopoly) for the same reason people tend to prefer transliterating proper names to Klingon instead of just leaving them in <b>DIvI' Hol</b> -- it looks more Klingon.<br><br></div>This conversation also reminds me of something very silly I thought of a few years ago. Since numbers and letters have names that sound like other words and syllables, you could use them for slang Klingon Internet abbreviations:<br></div><b>3! HI4!</b> <i>"Don't do it yet! Wait for me!"</i></div><div><b>Sa'9vo' ruqpu' 'Iv?</b> <i>"Who farted?"</i></div><div><b>gh'2!</b> <i>"Dammit!"</i></div><div><b>uawIjDaq pa' 'oHtaH</b> "It's over there in my bureau."</div><div><b>vIpbe'</b><i> "I don't regret it."</i></div><div><b>95! </b><i>"There's too many people here!"</i></div><div><b>ch' j'?! </b><i>"What the hell is going on?!"</i></div><div><b>mIv1wIj Daleghpu'''a'? </b><i>"Have you seen my scar?"</i></div><div>(The original spellings R left as an exercise 2 the reader.)<br></div><div><i></i></div><div><i><br></i></div>I assume Klingon teenagers did this all the time as soon as text message technology was invented on Qo'noS.<br><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Steven Boozer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu" target="_blank">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">From the Bird of Prey poster:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> wejvatlh loSmaH loS vI' vagh wej 'uj 'aD Duj<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> Length: 120 M<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> loSmaH jav vI' Soch loS 'uj 'ab meH<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> Bridge Height: 16.28 M<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> HIvtaHvIS toQDuj cha'vatlh wejmaH Soch vI' vagh chorgh 'uj 'ab 'oH<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> Attack Formation Height: 82.75 M<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> qughtaHvIS toQDuj HutmaH vI' jav wa' 'uj 'ab 'oH<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> Cruise Formation Height: 31.56 M<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> SaqtaHvIS toQDuj wa'vatlh loS vI' jav chorgh 'uj 'ab 'oH<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> Landing Formation Height: 36.46 M<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> cha' vI' vagh choQmey lutoghlu'<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> Number of Decks: 2.5<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> cha' choQmey naQ tu'lu' 'ej tep choQ bIngDaq lo' law' bID choQ tu'lu')<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> 2 Full Decks and a Half Utility Deck under the Cargo Deck)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> wejvatlh SochmaH vagh SaD cheb'a'mey ngI' Duj<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> Mass: 8.7 KT<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> Hong boq chuyDaH: loS<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> Impulse Fusion Thrusters - 4<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> muDDaq 'eDSeHcha lulaQlu'bogh: jav<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> Atmospheric Take-Off/Landing Thrusters - 6<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> pIvchem lIngwI' DaHmey: cha'<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> Warp Field Generation Arrays - 2<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> pIvchem SeHwI': cha'<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> Warp Field Controller - 2<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> qughDo motlh: pIvlob vagh<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> Normal Cruising Speed - Warp 5<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Okrand gives all the {tlhIngan Hol} in full words so that people know how to SAY the numbers and phrases. E.g. How do you say “2.5”? Answer: {cha’ vI’ vagh}
using {vI’} “decimal point” not {DoD} “mark (in coordinates). He’s never said that a technically advanced, space-faring civilization doesn’t have numerals. In fact he’s used numerals in the Monopoly game:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> voHDajbo' wellu' 200 [140, etc.]
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> Mortgaged for 200.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> ngIq raQ – 200 QaS, mon – 200 QaS loS raQmey je<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> Outposts cost 200 each; capitals, 200 each plus 4 outposts<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> ngIq raQ - 150 QaS
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> "outposts cost 150 each"<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> ngIq raQvaD cha'maH vagh QaS yInob.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> "For each outpost pay 25 forces."<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> ngIq gholvo' wa'maH QaS yItlhap.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> "Collect 10 forces from every player."<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">… and in his HolQeD 9.3 [Sept. 2000] article on simple arithmetic:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> 4 + 3 = 7
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wej boq loS; chen Soch<br>
"four allies with three; seven forms". <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> 2 + 1 = 3
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wa' boq cha'; chen wej<br>
"two allies with one, three forms."<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> 4 - 3 = 1<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> loS boqHa' wej; chen wa'
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"three dissociates from four, one forms"<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> 2 x 3 = 6
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cha'logh boq'egh wej; chen jav <br>
"twice, three allies with itself, six forms"<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> 3 x 2
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wejlogh boq'egh cha' <br>
"three times, two allies with itself"<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> 6/3 = 2
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wejlogh boqHa''egh jav; chen cha' <br>
"three times, six dissociates from itself, two forms" <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">--Voragh<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:<a href="mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org" target="_blank">tlhingan-hol-bounces@<wbr>lists.kli.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>mayqel qunenoS<u></u><u></u></span></p><span class="">
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<p class="MsoNormal">ghunchu'wI':<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> <span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The Bird of Prey poster is rife with numbers. All of them are </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> spelled out in Klingon. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">When you say "spelled out in klingon", you mean that they are written in pIqaD ?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 11 Aug 2017 5:11 pm, "ghunchu'wI' 'utlh" <<a href="mailto:qunchuy@alcaco.net" target="_blank">qunchuy@alcaco.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Aug 11, 2017, at 4:34 AM, mayqel qunenoS <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target="_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> However, I anxiously await for our honorable Ca'non master to decloak his bird of prey,...<br>
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The Bird of Prey poster is rife with numbers. All of them are spelled out in Klingon.<br>
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-- ghunchu'wI'<br>
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