[tlhIngan Hol] Are arabic numerals canon ?

Steven Boozer sboozer at uchicago.edu
Tue Sep 26 12:15:54 PDT 2017


Cleaning up my mailbox, I found this old post from qunnoq.

Yes, we have seen Okrand translate things expressed with Roman numbers in “Federation Standard” – planet names:

nImbuS wej               Nimbus III  (GN)

tlh'a' HoD, nImbuS wej yIghoS.
Captain Klaa, proceed to Nimbus III. (ST5 notes)

nImbuS wej maghoS, He yInab
Plot course for Nimbus III.  ST5

nImbuS wejDaq 'ejDo' 'entepray' ngeHlu'pu'
The starship Enterprise has been dispatched to Nimbus III. ST5

pentatlh wej               Penteth III (in Cardassian Union) MKE

pIvghor yIchu' 'ej pentatlh wej yIjaH
Warp to Pentath III. MKE

chaltoq loS                 Chaltok IV (in Romulan Star Empire) MKE

la'pa' loS                    Lappa IV (in Ferengi Alliance) MKE

vanDIroS loS             Vandros IV (in Gamma Quadrant) MKE

Do’natu vagh             Donatu V   (qep’a’ 2017)

… and royal names:

(KGT 126):   In Shakespeare's original Klingon version of HenrI' vagh, known in Federation Standard as Henry V, HenrI', the Supreme Commander, gets into an argument with one of his troops the night before a great battle.

The point here is that royal names are read out using the cardinal number (just like planet names), not the ordinal with –DIch as in, say, English king Henry the Eighth.


--Voragh


From: mayqel qunenoS

However, I anxiously await for our honorable Ca'non master to decloak his bird of prey, and shed some light on the matter.

And the question we need him to answer is "are there canon sentences, which were not written for actors, utilizing roman numerals ?".


On 11 Aug 2017 11:24 am, "Lieven" <levinius at gmx.de<mailto:levinius at gmx.de>> wrote:
Am 11.08.2017 um 10:17 schrieb mayqel qunenoS:
Are there sentences written by 'oqranD, which sentences weren't written for actors, and which sentences utilize arabic numerals ?

I don't remember any phrase using arabic letters, I'll leave that to the canon experts.

But again: All the Klingon we know is only a transcrption of a SPOKEN language. Alle the Klingon was basically written for actors, or for anyone who wants to speak it. There is no rule or proof for using numbers or not use them. using numbers would just be a lazy way to abbreviate numbers.

You cannot speak "1", do you?

--
Lieven L. Litaer
aka Quvar valer 'utlh
Grammarian of the KLI
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