[tlhIngan Hol] wa'DIch

[qurgh lungqIj]

As long as it's listing steps, it works for all the numbers, as that's what
ordinal numbers are for:

wa'DIch Soj vISop
cha'DIch HIq vItlhutlh
wejDIch jagh vIHIv
ghIq jIQong

First I eat the food
Second I drink the wine
Third I attack the enemy
Then I sleep

qurgh


On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:19 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:

> lieven:
> > Yes, indeed. Few lines later it says {ghIq Hegh qanjIt}. (PB p
> > 149.
>
> For the noble reason of helping someone who may be reading this thread,
> and for the selfish reason of helping myself whenever I may read this again
> in the future, here is the relevant text:
>
> wa'DIch Hegh moratlh
> wej SuvwI' SuvtaHvIS
> mongDaj DuQlu' 'ej Hegh
>
> ghIq Hegh qanjIt
> qeylIS retlhDaq Suv
> wa' jagh HoHta' HeghtaHvIS
>
> The interesting thing here, is that we have {ghIq Hegh qanjIt}, and not
> {cha'DIch Hegh qanjIt}.
>
> "First/at first/initially" {wa'DIch} happens whatever, and
> "then/subsequently" {ghIq} something also happens.
>
> So, from this, it is clear that {wa'DIch} can be used in the sense of "first/at
> first/initially etc".
>
> qunnoq
>
>
>
> On Aug 24, 2017 2:40 PM, "Lieven" <levinius at gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> Am 23.08.2017 um 17:02 schrieb mayqel qunenoS:
>>
>>>  > 2) may' bI'reS bejtaHvIS mon.
>>>  > «First, he watches the battle smiling.»
>>>
>>> This is even more confusing. If the {bI'reS} here was meant to be a
>>> timestamp, then the klingon sentence should be {bI'reS may' bejtaHvIS mon}.
>>> Let alone the fact, that even in this case, without the punctuation we
>>> would have the ambiguities discussed at the "First, Molor taunts Kahless"
>>> sentence.
>>>
>>
>> No, not neccessary. You can see {may' bI'reS} as the time stamp: "At the
>> beginning of the battle, he watches smiling". WHat I think was that it says
>> "He smiles while watching the bgining of the battle" - and it's the english
>> which does not fit perfectly.
>>
>> I can't understand this sentence at all. All I get is "First, part of the
>>> head.."
>>>
>>
>> It's literally "the head part". It's not a sentence, but a listing,
>> talking about connecting body parts in some ritual. You understand when you
>> see the following lines:
>> wa'DIch nach 'ay'
>> cha'DIch ghIv 'ay'
>> wejDIch burgh 'ay'
>> loSDIch bIng 'ay'
>> vaghDIch Dung 'ay'
>> [...] PB, / p. 102
>>
>>
>>  > 5) wa'DIch Hegh moratlh.
>>>  > «First, Morath fell.»
>>>
>>> I could understand this being the use of {wa'DIch} as a timestamp, as
>>> long as this sentence isn't the first of a group of sentences where
>>> numbering takes place (is it ?).
>>>
>>
>> Yes, indeed. Few lines later it says {ghIq Hegh qanjIt}. (PB p 149.)
>>
>> --
>> Lieven L. Litaer
>> aka Quvar valer 'utlh
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