[tlhIngan Hol] wa'DIch

[mayqel qunenoS]

lieven:
> Yes, indeed. Few lines later it says {ghIq Hegh qanjIt}. (PB p
> 149.

For the noble reason of helping someone who may be reading this thread, and
for the selfish reason of helping myself whenever I may read this again in
the future, here is the relevant text:

wa'DIch Hegh moratlh
wej SuvwI' SuvtaHvIS
mongDaj DuQlu' 'ej Hegh

ghIq Hegh qanjIt
qeylIS retlhDaq Suv
wa' jagh HoHta' HeghtaHvIS

The interesting thing here, is that we have {ghIq Hegh qanjIt}, and not
{cha'DIch Hegh qanjIt}.

"First/at first/initially" {wa'DIch} happens whatever, and
"then/subsequently" {ghIq} something also happens.

So, from this, it is clear that {wa'DIch} can be used in the sense of "first/at
first/initially etc".

qunnoq



On Aug 24, 2017 2:40 PM, "Lieven" <levinius at gmx.de> wrote:

> Am 23.08.2017 um 17:02 schrieb mayqel qunenoS:
>
>>  > 2) may' bI'reS bejtaHvIS mon.
>>  > «First, he watches the battle smiling.»
>>
>> This is even more confusing. If the {bI'reS} here was meant to be a
>> timestamp, then the klingon sentence should be {bI'reS may' bejtaHvIS mon}.
>> Let alone the fact, that even in this case, without the punctuation we
>> would have the ambiguities discussed at the "First, Molor taunts Kahless"
>> sentence.
>>
>
> No, not neccessary. You can see {may' bI'reS} as the time stamp: "At the
> beginning of the battle, he watches smiling". WHat I think was that it says
> "He smiles while watching the bgining of the battle" - and it's the english
> which does not fit perfectly.
>
> I can't understand this sentence at all. All I get is "First, part of the
>> head.."
>>
>
> It's literally "the head part". It's not a sentence, but a listing,
> talking about connecting body parts in some ritual. You understand when you
> see the following lines:
> wa'DIch nach 'ay'
> cha'DIch ghIv 'ay'
> wejDIch burgh 'ay'
> loSDIch bIng 'ay'
> vaghDIch Dung 'ay'
> [...] PB, / p. 102
>
>
>  > 5) wa'DIch Hegh moratlh.
>>  > «First, Morath fell.»
>>
>> I could understand this being the use of {wa'DIch} as a timestamp, as
>> long as this sentence isn't the first of a group of sentences where
>> numbering takes place (is it ?).
>>
>
> Yes, indeed. Few lines later it says {ghIq Hegh qanjIt}. (PB p 149.)
>
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