[tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: matlhHa'
mayqel qunenoS
mihkoun at gmail.com
Tue Sep 20 08:41:44 PDT 2016
SuStel:
> Use *-lu'* when you want to de-emphasize the
> role of the subject in the sentence, or when
> you just don't know or don't care who or what
> the subject is. Use *vay'* when you want to talk
> about *someone* or *something* and have them
> play an active role in the sentence.
this is beautiful ! thanks !
qunnoq
ghogh HablI'wIjvo' vIngeHta'
On 20 Sep 2016 6:29 p.m., "SuStel" <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
> On 9/20/2016 11:19 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>
> lieven:
>
> Hope this helps a bit
>
>
> Yes, it does ! And I think I understand (finally) what's going on.
>
> If I walk in the kitchen to see that someone ate my pie, then I will
> say: {QI'yaH ! chabwIj Sopta' vay' !}
>
> But if I want to say that "when someone eats pizza, he always needs to
> drink beer too", then I will say {pItSa' chab Soplu'taHvIS vaj reH HIq
> tlhutlhnISlu' je}
>
> Because I learned something new, I'm happy, however it amazes me, how
> something so important eluded me so far..
>
>
> Don't take this too far. It would also be perfectly correct to say *chabwIj
> Soplu'ta'** my pie has been eaten.* *-lu'* is not only for hypothetical
> or subjunctive uses.
>
> It's a matter of focus. *-lu'* takes the focus away from whoever would be
> the subject of the sentence, because it removes the subject entirely.
>
>
> *chabwIj Sopta' vay''e' **someone, definitely someone, has eaten my pie*
>
>
> *chabwIj Soplu'ta' *
> *my pie has been eaten *
>
> In the former sentence, I'm focusing very strongly on the culprit. In the
> latter, I'm focusing on my pie and the fact of its having been eaten; I'm
> not considering who has done it.
>
> Use *-lu'* when you want to de-emphasize the role of the subject in the
> sentence, or when you just don't know or don't care who or what the subject
> is. Use *vay'* when you want to talk about *someone* or *something* and
> have them play an active role in the sentence.
>
> --
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>
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