[tlhIngan Hol] Admire the man..

[SuStel]

On 6/24/2016 10:28 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
> SuStel :
>> The bathroom isn't a beneficiary of the action of waking or not waking.
> There is something here that rubs me the wrong way (I love this
> american expression !).
>
> Way back, I believed that by saying "beneficiary of the action", we
> meant that it is someone or something that actually benefits/profits
> from the action.
>
> So, someone told me (I think it was Qov), that by saying "beneficiary"
> we don't mean that someone or something actually benefits, but that
> someone or something (other than the direct object) is affected in any
> way.
>
> In the bathroom example, isn't the bathroom affected ? As soon as
> someone (the person of the sentence) wakes up, he goes to the
> bathroom..

You're right about the idea of a beneficiary, but in your original 
sentence *(**qaStaHvIS ram puchpa'vaD vembe'bogh nuv, yIHo'**)* you are 
saying that waking up or not waking up /directly /affects the bathroom, 
not that there is a chain of events between waking up and affecting the 
bathroom. The link between the action and the beneficiary has to be 
closer than that.

-- 
SuStel
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