[tlhIngan Hol] Admire the man..

[mayqel qunenoS]

SuStel :
> The bathroom isn't a beneficiary of the action of waking or not waking.

There is something here that rubs me the wrong way (I love this
american expression !).

Way back, I believed that by saying "beneficiary of the action", we
meant that it is someone or something that actually benefits/profits
from the action.

So, someone told me (I think it was Qov), that by saying "beneficiary"
we don't mean that someone or something actually benefits, but that
someone or something (other than the direct object) is affected in any
way.

In the bathroom example, isn't the bathroom affected ? As soon as
someone (the person of the sentence) wakes up, he goes to the
bathroom..



On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 4:40 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The bathroom isn't a beneficiary of the action of waking or not waking.
>
> Hmm.. I hadn't thought of that.
>
>> How is that man "final"? Why not just say nuvvam?
>
> I thought that the {Qav} was similar in meaning to the {natlIS} ; I
> didn't think of using {nuvvam}, which of course is way better.. If
> only it had come to mind !
>
> mop Hurgh
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 4:05 PM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
>> On 6/24/2016 5:34 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>>
>> qaStaHvIS ram puchpa'vaD vembe'bogh nuv, yIHo' !
>> admire the man who doesn't wake up for the bathroom at night !
>>
>>
>> The bathroom isn't a beneficiary of the action of waking or not waking.
>>
>> Here's a somewhat awkward rendition of this idea:
>>
>> qaStaHvIS ram puch lo'nISbe'bogh QongtaHbogh nuv yIHo'
>> admire the sleeping person who doesn't need to use the bathroom during the
>> night!
>>
>>
>> nuv Qav quvmoHqu'lu'..
>> that man is truly blessed..
>>
>>
>> How is that man "final"? Why not just say nuvvam?
>>
>> --
>> SuStel
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>>
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