[tlhIngan Hol] [Tlhingan-hol] Liquid Nitrogen

mayqel qunenoS mihkoun at gmail.com
Fri Aug 5 06:38:01 PDT 2016

> On the other hand, we also have constructions like baS ‘In, which means metal
> drum, and certainly not metal’s drum. Possession is only one function of the genitive
> noun-noun construction.

yes indeed, and that's the good thing with noun-noun constructions ;
they have many functions.

I don't remember who had told me this, but one of the first things I
learned in klingon was that N1-N2, could be interpreted as "N2 being
described by N1", or more simply "descriptor-thing described".

However, I don't remember reading this in the TKD, or explicitly
stated as a grammar rule.

Well, good thing we didn't consider this as being an illegal use of a
noun-noun construction.. We have already invented a lot of ways of
grammar interpretation, in order to tie our hands and make our lives

nach velwI' qIj

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu> wrote:
> From the BOP Poster we have the N1-N2 noun-noun phrase {rugh bIQSIp}
> "anti-hydrogen" (lit. "antimatter hydrogen").  How is this grammatically
> different from *{betgham bIQSIp}?
> For those not up on their Treknology:
> (ST Encyclopedia):  Deuterium was also used as one of the reactants in the
> matter/antimatter reaction system in those ships' warp drive. The
> deuterium was the matter, and anti-hydrogen served as the antimatter. (TNG
> "Relics")
> FYI, {bIQSIp 'ugh} "deuterium isotope" (lit. "heavy hydrogen") also comes
> from the Poster comes from the BOP Poster.
> --
> Voragh
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > Fiat Knox <fiat_knox at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> > > So, now we know that betgham means liquid (n). Does that mean we can
>> > > now use a noun-noun construction and officially call liquid nitrogen
>> > > *betgham voQSIp?* Ditto for, say, liquid oxygen, liquid hydrogen and
>> > > liquid gold?
>> >
>> > I doubt it, since "liquid" in "liquid oxygen" is not a noun but an
>> > adjective.
>> >
>> > {betgham voQSIp} would seem to me to mean "liquid nitrogen" as in "the
>> > nitrogen which is present in this liquid" rather than "nitrogen in
>> > liquid form".
>> >
>> > "The liquid's nitrogen" or "nitrogen of the liquid" would be other
>> > ways of putting it.
>> >
>> > A bit like how I interpret {nuH pegh} (the TKD example) not as a
>> > weapon secret (one concerning a weapon) but as a particular weapon's
>> secret.
>> >
>> > And indeed TKD, says that "N1-N2 (that is, noun #1 followed by noun
>> > #2) would be <N2 of the N1.>", so {betgham voQSIp} would be something
>> > like "nitrogen of the liquid".
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Philip
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