Klingon Word of the Day: ghang
Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, January 16, 2019 Klingon word: ghang Part of speech: verb Definition: end prematurely (an event, voyage, battle, play, opera, story, song, etc.) Source: HQ:v12n2p8 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh@kli.org).
Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, January 16, 2019 Klingon word: ghang Part of speech: verb Definition: end prematurely (an event, voyage, battle, play, opera, story, song, etc.) Source: HQ:v12n2p8 _______________________________________________ DIvI' rojmab qep ghanglu' 'e' nIDlu', 'ach taH qep. Despite efforts to halt them, peace talks with Federation continue. MKE (HQ 12.2:8): Another verb, {ghang}, is used to express the idea of a premature ending. If, using the same examples, the voyage is cut short or the song is interrupted before the final part is sung, one would say: {leng [lu]ghangDI' SuvwI'pu' 'IQ chaH} "When the warriors end the voyage prematurely, they are sad." [sic! {lu-} omitted] {bom [lu]ghangDI' SuvwI'pu' tlhutlh chaH} "When the warriors end the song prematurely, they drink." [sic! {lu-} omitted] Note that the voyage and the song cannot end themselves. Someone has to end them. ... There is a difference between the end of the performance of a song or opera or play, indicated by making use of the verbs {van} and {ghang}, and the ending, or final portion, of a song or opera or play itself. For an opera, play, story, speech, and so on, the final portion is its {bertlham}. PUN: "The Gong Show" (Chuck Barris' U.S. TV show). Many of those acts were ended prematurely when one of the judges struck a gong. SEE ALSO: Dor end (v) qIl cancel (v) van end [an event] (v) ta' accomplish, do (v) N.B. {ghangwI'} "horizon" (n) seems not to be related to {ghang} despite what appears to be the V9 nomen agentis suffix {-wI'}. Could this be evidence of an unknown or obsolete homophonous verb? Can anyone think of another example containing *{wI'} meaning something other than "one who is/does, thing which is/does" or "my (capable of using language)"? -- Voragh Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
N.B. = *nota bene*, Latin for “note well” or “observe carefully” or “take special notice” (used in written text to draw attention to what follows). Voragh From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org] On Behalf Of mayqel qunenoS What does "N.B." mean ? ~ mayqel *I love maltz* qunen'oS
I like to think Marc gave us this word as a gift to me, to help me with the my grieving at the passing of my dog, whom I had named Ghang when she showed up my door in 1979. She was a boon companion and helped me through hard times until her passing in 1998. Of course, that may just be wishful thinking.
Well, if {ghang} means to end prematurely, {ghangwI'} means something like "terminator". Terminator in English has a different astronomical meaning, though. On the other hand the horizon is the premature end of the visible part of the land you are on, isn't it? Or maybe, "the premature end" is just the meaning we have been given so far, and e.g. in astronomy {ghang} has a specialized meaning we can only speculate about. On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 3:26 PM Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, January 16, 2019
Klingon word: ghang Part of speech: verb Definition: end prematurely (an event, voyage, battle, play, opera, story, song, etc.) Source: HQ:v12n2p8 _______________________________________________
DIvI' rojmab qep ghanglu' 'e' nIDlu', 'ach taH qep. Despite efforts to halt them, peace talks with Federation continue. MKE
(HQ 12.2:8): Another verb, {ghang}, is used to express the idea of a premature ending. If, using the same examples, the voyage is cut short or the song is interrupted before the final part is sung, one would say: {leng [lu]ghangDI' SuvwI'pu' 'IQ chaH} "When the warriors end the voyage prematurely, they are sad." [sic! {lu-} omitted] {bom [lu]ghangDI' SuvwI'pu' tlhutlh chaH} "When the warriors end the song prematurely, they drink." [sic! {lu-} omitted] Note that the voyage and the song cannot end themselves. Someone has to end them. ... There is a difference between the end of the performance of a song or opera or play, indicated by making use of the verbs {van} and {ghang}, and the ending, or final portion, of a song or opera or play itself. For an opera, play, story, speech, and so on, the final portion is its {bertlham}.
PUN: "The Gong Show" (Chuck Barris' U.S. TV show). Many of those acts were ended prematurely when one of the judges struck a gong.
SEE ALSO: Dor end (v) qIl cancel (v) van end [an event] (v) ta' accomplish, do (v)
N.B. {ghangwI'} "horizon" (n) seems not to be related to {ghang} despite what appears to be the V9 nomen agentis suffix {-wI'}. Could this be evidence of an unknown or obsolete homophonous verb? Can anyone think of another example containing *{wI'} meaning something other than "one who is/does, thing which is/does" or "my (capable of using language)"?
-- Voragh Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 16:26, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
N.B. {ghangwI'} "horizon" (n) seems not to be related to {ghang} despite what appears to be the V9 nomen agentis suffix {-wI'}. Could this be evidence of an unknown or obsolete homophonous verb? Can anyone think of another example containing *{wI'} meaning something other than "one who is/does, thing which is/does" or "my (capable of using language)"?
What am I missing? It seems obvious to me that {ghangwI'} is exactly {ghang} + {-wI'}. The "horizon" is the thing which ends your view of the planet prematurely. Or do you mean that the examples listed in the word's definition of things which can be ended prematurely are all events, and not not spatial? -- De'vID
Ending your view, yes, but I guess I don’t see the “premature” bit. People have been aware of the horizon for countless eons so there’s nothing unexpected about it. I do understand your argument – which may well be Okrand’s – although the alternative would be an infinite view into the distance. I was wondering about *wI’. We have seen Okrand use what appear to be suffixes as separate, unrelated words: e.g. bej (cf. also in ngeHbej cosmos), pu’ phaser, wIj farm, etc. --Voragh From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org] On Behalf Of De'vID On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 16:26, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu<mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu>> wrote: N.B. {ghangwI'} "horizon" (n) seems not to be related to {ghang} despite what appears to be the V9 nomen agentis suffix {-wI'}. Could this be evidence of an unknown or obsolete homophonous verb? Can anyone think of another example containing *{wI'} meaning something other than "one who is/does, thing which is/does" or "my (capable of using language)"? What am I missing? It seems obvious to me that {ghangwI'} is exactly {ghang} + {-wI'}. The "horizon" is the thing which ends your view of the planet prematurely. Or do you mean that the examples listed in the word's definition of things which can be ended prematurely are all events, and not not spatial? -- De'vID
Am 16.01.2019 um 20:54 schrieb De'vID:> What am I missing? It seems obvious to me that {ghangwI'} is exactly
{ghang} + {-wI'}. The "horizon" is the thing which ends your view of the
I don't have any problem with ghangwI', but I never saw the connection to "end prematurely". I used to think of {ghangwI'} indeed with the suffix "does/is something", but I thought that in this word, ghang means something else - maybe an old Klingon word? - like "thing which is horizontal and marks the line between sky and ground" or something like that. But that's just theory. I can live with "the horizon ends your voyage" because that's actually a very nice image. (maybe there's a song of that kind?) It's interesting to note that ghangwI' appeared exactly one year before the verb ghang was explained. That may be a coincidience, or Marc Okrand forgot about it or not... (usually, he explains the meaning of a verb when there's a related -wI' noun, but not this time.) Still just theory. @David: you may want to fix that in boQwI': {ghangwI'} n. 11:2, p. 8 - June 2002 {ghang} v. 12:2, p. 8 - June 2003 -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/StarTrekDiscovery
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