For "gowron tickled the cat too" (or "gowron too tickled the cat"), do I say: {vIghro' qotlh rIntaH je ghawran} or do I say: {vIghro' qotlh je rIntaH ghawran} ? ~ channgan qIj
On 11/8/2018 4:15 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
For "gowron tickled the cat too" (or "gowron too tickled the cat"), do I say:
{vIghro' qotlh rIntaH je ghawran}
or do I say:
{vIghro' qotlh je rIntaH ghawran} ?
Insufficient data. Both are said to "follow the verb," but neither is given any sort of precedence. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name
SuStel:
Insufficient data. Both are said to "follow the verb," but neither is given any sort of precedence.
I understand; however let me ask you.. If you had to write a sentence with the {je} and {rIntaH}, how would you write it ? What would be your personal preference ? ~ channgan
Am 09.11.2018 um 07:37 schrieb mayqel qunenoS:
I understand; however let me ask you.. If you had to write a sentence with the {je} and {rIntaH}, how would you write it ? What would be your personal preference ?
This is based on nothing, but as I think of rIntaH as a replacement for {-ta'} I would put it in that slot and be followed by je. But on the other hand it is possible that it is ambigous and the placement of je depends on what is repeated, so if it follows {rIntaH} one could read that as "it is also rIntaH". vIHoH rIntaH je. =(?) "It is also accomplished that I kill" vIHoH je rIntaH. =(?) "It is accomplished that I also kill" possibly, but not sure. This is just my opinion and I'm not even sure if it makes sense - but you have asked for it ;-) -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/Conjunction
ghItlhpu' channgan, jatlh:
If you had to write a sentence with the {je} and {rIntaH}, how would you write it ? What would be your personal preference ?
I can only speak for myself, of course, but my instinct would be {vIghro' qotlh je rIntaH}, and with an overt subject, probably {vIghro' qotlh je rIntaH ghawran}. QeS 'utlh
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 at 22:24, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
On 11/8/2018 4:15 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
For "gowron tickled the cat too" (or "gowron too tickled the cat"), do I say:
{vIghro' qotlh rIntaH je ghawran}
or do I say:
{vIghro' qotlh je rIntaH ghawran} ?
Insufficient data. Both are said to "follow the verb," but neither is given any sort of precedence.
But given that {rIntaH} is itself also a verb, if both orders are possible, {... je rIntaH} is the less ambiguous. {... rIntaH je} could mean, "it is also accomplished that... (in addition to something else which was accomplished)". yuQ chargh rIntaH. jaghpu' HoH rIntaH je. -- De'vID
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