'op Hogh ret, naDev jIghItlh: jIqeqmeH, mab'a' chu' vImughqang. vaj paqvam vImughchoH.. QIt matthew paq vImughtaH, 'ej ngeD mIw, 'a tugh jIpuQchoH. reH buQ paqvam 'ej reH 'Irgh. vaj, tugh jISIvchoH.. qatlh 'Irghqangqu'bogh Qunqoq vIquvnISmoH ? qatlh paqDaj lo'laHbe' vImughnIS ? Qun tu'lu'bej'a' ? Sovbej pagh; 'a Qun tu'lu'chugh vaj Hoch muSHa'nIS Qunvam.. buQqangchugh Qunvam, 'Irghqangchugh Qunvam, 'ej ghe''orDaq latlhpu' ngeHqangchugh Qunvam, vaj Qunna' ghaHbe'.. Qunqoq neH ghaH. 'ej Qunqoqvam vIquvmoHQo'. ~ nI'ghma
bIQoSnISbe'. Qochchugh vay', paqvam mughlaHbej ghaH. paqvam Damugh 'e' DanIDmo' qatlho', jIHvaD Dajmo'. (lalDanwIj 'oHbe' lalDanvetlh'e', 'a Hoch lalDanmey vIyaj 'e' vInIDtaH, 'ej muSeyqu'moH tlhIngan Hol.) buQtaHbogh Qun quvmoH neHchugh vay', wIvDaj 'oH. vay' wIwIvlaH. DIbmaj 'oH. Qunvetlh vIquvmoHQo' je, 'a QaQbogh qangtlhIn puS ghaj lalDanDaj 'e' vIHar. ('ej qabbogh qangtlhIn puS ghaj je 'e' vIHar.)
On Jun 26, 2018, at 10:29, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
'op Hogh ret, naDev jIghItlh:
jIqeqmeH, mab'a' chu' vImughqang. vaj paqvam vImughchoH..
QIt matthew paq vImughtaH, 'ej ngeD mIw, 'a tugh jIpuQchoH. reH buQ paqvam 'ej reH 'Irgh. vaj, tugh jISIvchoH.. qatlh 'Irghqangqu'bogh Qunqoq vIquvnISmoH ? qatlh paqDaj lo'laHbe' vImughnIS ?
Qun tu'lu'bej'a' ? Sovbej pagh; 'a Qun tu'lu'chugh vaj Hoch muSHa'nIS Qunvam.. buQqangchugh Qunvam, 'Irghqangchugh Qunvam, 'ej ghe''orDaq latlhpu' ngeHqangchugh Qunvam, vaj Qunna' ghaHbe'.. Qunqoq neH ghaH.
'ej Qunqoqvam vIquvmoHQo'.
~ nI'ghma
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On Tue, 2018-06-26 at 18:29 +0300, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
'op Hogh ret, naDev jIghItlh:
jIqeqmeH, mab'a' chu' vImughqang. vaj paqvam vImughchoH..
QIt matthew paq vImughtaH, 'ej ngeD mIw, 'a tugh jIpuQchoH. reH buQ paqvam 'ej reH 'Irgh. vaj, tugh jISIvchoH.. qatlh 'Irghqangqu'bogh Qunqoq vIquvnISmoH ? qatlh paqDaj lo'laHbe' vImughnIS ?
Qun tu'lu'bej'a' ? Sovbej pagh; 'a Qun tu'lu'chugh vaj Hoch muSHa'nIS Qunvam.. buQqangchugh Qunvam, 'Irghqangchugh Qunvam, 'ej ghe''orDaq latlhpu' ngeHqangchugh Qunvam, vaj Qunna' ghaHbe'.. Qunqoq neH ghaH.
'ej Qunqoqvam vIquvmoHQo'.
~ nI'ghma
mab'a' ngo' wIqelchugh, 'Irgh chaq 'e' wIjem. 'ach mab'a' chu' wIqeltaHvIS, 'Irghbe'. ghe''orDaq ngeHbe'. [wIwIvlaH] jatlh Dadaq. teH. Qun pung wIvbe' vay', ghe''orDaq ngeHbe' Qun. taHbe'chugh Qun, pagh'a' neH tu'lu'. pung nobqang Qun. Qun nob laj vay', Hev. nob lajbe' 'e' wIv vay', pagh'a' ghajtaH. pa' vay' ngeHbe' Qun; pa' taHtaH vay'. yemwI' qIch Humanpu'. [bIpupbe'chugh ghe''orDaq bIbech] jatlh Humanpu'. yemwI' qIHDI' Qun puqloD, [ghe''orDaq bImeQ] jatlhbe' ghaH. [yIyemQo'choH] neH jatlh. nobDaj DaHev 'e' DawIv'a'? - DloraH
nobqoq vItu'laHbe'bogh vIlajlaHbe'. nobwI'qoq vItu'laHbe'bogh vIwuvlaHbe'. HarwI'pu' vIvuvlaH, 'ach Qun HarwI' jIHbe'. Hoch ngaS 'u' vIDabbogh. pagh'a' 'oHbe' Hoch'e'. -- ghunchu'wI'
daniel, ghunchu'wI' je, QInmeyraj vIlaDta' 'ej jIQochbe'. DloraH, QInlIj vIlaDta' je, 'a Do'Ha' jIQoch. vuDlIj vIvuv, 'a meq law'mo' jIQoch. 'a, meqmeyvam vIDelmeH, 'op christianity paQDI'norgh vIghItlhnIS, 'ej DaH poH yap vIHutlh. vaj, wa'leS jIjang 'ej vuDwIj vItob. ~ nI'ghma
christianity lunum 'op nuv; 'ej lalDanvam lunummeH, motlh jatlh: pung ghaj christian Qun; tera'Daq SaHtaHvIS christ, not latlhpu' qIch.. maj.. 'a, christianity paQDI'norgh naQ luDelbe'mo' nuvpu'vam, vIt naQ luDelbe' nuvpu'vam. vaj, DaH, paQDI'norgh puS DIlaDjaj.. 1. qorDu' luchenmoHchugh cha' nuv, 'a tlhoghbe'chuq nuvpu'vam, vaj HeghDI', ghe''orDaq nuvpu'vam ngeH Qun. 2. nga'chuqchugh cha' loD qoj nga'chuqchugh cha' be', vaj HeghDI', ghe''orDaq nuvpu'vam ngeH Qun. 3. Hoch jaj wa', chIrghDaq jaHlu'Qo'chugh vaj Heghlu'DI', ghe''orDaq nuvvam ngeH Qun. 4. yem wa' nuv; nuvvam qeHHa'meH Qun, Qun 'oSwI'Daq DISnIS nuvvam. 'a DISQo'chugh vaj HeghDI', ghe''orDaq nuvvam ngeH Qun. chaq, tuH nuvvam; chaq tuHmo' DISlaHbe'.. 'a pagh choH wanI'vam.. tagha' ghe''orDaq nuvvam ngeH Qun. 5. tera'Daq narghDI' christianity, and qaStaHvIS vatlh DIS poHmey wa'DIch, christianity lubot 'op ta'. 'ej christian ghaHchugh wa' nuv'e', nuvvamvaD jatlh ta'pu'vam: christianity DalonQo'chugh, vaj Dajoy'lu'. vaj, bechtaHvIS nuvvam, tagha' Hegh nuvvam; 'e' lajQo'chugh nuvvam, vaj jatlh Qun: bIlo'laHbe' ! ghe''orDaq yIjaH ! 6. 'ej DaH peqIm ! QunvaD jatlhtaHvIS christianpu', nuq lujatlh ? {jesus christ, jIHvaD pung yI'agh}. maj.. 'ej qatlh pung luneH christianpu' ? ghe''orvo' narghmeH.. maj.. 'a, chay' ghe''or Del orthodox christianity ? ghe''or 'oH nuq'e' ? ghe''or bopbogh orthodox paQDI'norgh'e' wInuDjaj.. jatlh orthodox christianity.. DaH, ngay'Daj So'taH Qun; 'a, tera'Daq narghqa'DI', ngay'Daj So'Ha'chu'. ngugh, 'op nuv toD Qun. Qun ngay' lujemtaHvIS nuvpu'vam, Quchchu'. vaj chaHvaD QI'tu' 'oH Qun ngay''e'. 'a 'op nuv toDQo' Qun.. 'ej Qun ngay' lujemtaHvIS nuvpu'vam, bechqu'. vaj chaHvaD ghe''or 'oH Qun ngay''e'.. vaj, maHvaD jatlh orthodoxy: Qun ngay' 'oH ghe''or qul'e'.. 'ej DaH jIghel.. pung ghaj Qunqoqvam ? pung ghaj HI''a'vam ? chay' Qunqoqvam lajlaH vay' ? wa'Hu' jIghItlh, 'ej DaH jIghItlhqa': Qunqoqvam vIquvmoHQo'. 'upchu' Qunqoqvam. ~ nI'ghma
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