aspect suffix -pu' with motlh roD and reH
mu'tlheghDaq {-pu'} {roD}/{reH} *je* tu'lu'chugh, vaj chay' mu'tlheghvam wot yajnISlu' ? qaStaHvIS poH nI', Sojvam vIqeltaH, vaj DaH ghu'wIj qay' boSIQ je. jIqon: pItSa' vISoppu' I have eaten pizza (only once) motlh pItSa' vISoppu' usually I have eaten pizza (my eating the pizza is an event having being repeated more than once) roD pItSa' vISoppu' regularly I have eaten pizza (my eating the pizza is an event having being repeated regularly) pIj pItSa' vISoppu' often I have eaten pizza (my eating the pizza is an event having being repeated often) reH pItSa' vISoppu' always I have eaten pizza (my eating the pizza is an event having being repeated always) lughchugh mughta'ghachmey vorgh, DaH nargh wa' ghu' qay'.. mu'tlhegh wa': pa'logh, qaStaHvIS wa' DIS, pItSa' vISop during one year in the past, I eat pitsa (my eating the pizza is an event being repeated during that period more than once) mu'tlhegh cha': pa'logh, qaStaHvIS wa' DIS, reH/roD/pIj/motlh pItSa' vISoppu' during one year in the past, I have eaten pizza always/regularly/often/usually (my eating the pizza is an event being repeated during that period more than once) vaj.. raplaw' mu'tlhegh wa' mu'tlhegh cha' je; chaq wa' DI'onmo' neH pIm mu'tlheghvam: historical present lo' mu'tlhegh wa' "looking back" Ho'DoS lo' mu'tlhegh cha' jIlugh'a' ? ~ Qa'yIn
On 10/29/2020 9:24 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
mu'tlhegh wa':
pa'logh, qaStaHvIS wa' DIS, pItSa' vISop during one year in the past, I eat pitsa (my eating the pizza is an event being repeated during that period more than once)
mu'tlhegh cha':
pa'logh, qaStaHvIS wa' DIS, reH/roD/pIj/motlh pItSa' vISoppu' during one year in the past, I have eaten pizza always/regularly/often/usually (my eating the pizza is an event being repeated during that period more than once)
vaj.. raplaw' mu'tlhegh wa' mu'tlhegh cha' je; chaq wa' DI'onmo' neH pIm mu'tlheghvam:
historical present lo' mu'tlhegh wa' "looking back" Ho'DoS lo' mu'tlhegh cha'
jIlugh'a' ?
No, I would say that sentence one is stating a general truth, not speaking in a way resembling English historical present tense. (You can just say *wa' DIS* as a time expression. We have the example of *wa' jaj* in TKW that does the same thing. *wa' DIS pItSa' chab vISop*/One year, I ate pizza./) I really don't think another extended discussion of the difference between using perfective in the past and not using perfective in the past is going to be of any help. Perfective means you're looking back at an action completed no matter where in time that action occurs relative to you. Lacking perfective or continuous suffixes means the sentence means anything other than perfective or continuous. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name
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