Expressing surprise
There are klingon words to express extreme anger (for example {Qu'vatlh}. Is there a word/expression to say when you are suddenly surprised ? qunnoq
Something along the lines of {'aaaa!}, I'm guessing. On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:15 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
There are klingon words to express extreme anger (for example {Qu'vatlh}.
Is there a word/expression to say when you are suddenly surprised ?
qunnoq
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There's a few examples you could use when surprised, though the emotion they suggest is more confusion than surprise: {qaStaH nuq jay'} "What the hell is going on?" (from ST6, I think) {chay'} "What the-?" (from TKD) (Maybe you could add {jay'} to the previous example to get {chay' jay'} ("What the hell-?"), which has a nice rhyme to it.)
(TKD 6.4): The question word chay' "how?" may be used as a one-word sentence meaning “How did this happen? What happened? What the--?” --Voragh From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org] On Behalf Of nIqolay Q There's a few examples you could use when surprised, though the emotion they suggest is more confusion than surprise: {qaStaH nuq jay'} "What the hell is going on?" (from ST6, I think) {chay'} "What the-?" (from TKD) (Maybe you could add {jay'} to the previous example to get {chay' jay'} ("What the hell-?"), which has a nice rhyme to it.)
voragh quoting "tng the chase":
he exclaimed *Maw’tok!* in shock.
I guess we don't have a canon klingon spelling for maw'tok, right ? qunnoq On 16 Aug 2017 9:10 pm, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
(TKD 6.4): The question word *chay'* "how?" may be used as a one-word sentence meaning “*How did this happen*? *What happened*? *What the*--?”
--Voragh
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There's a few examples you could use when surprised, though the emotion they suggest is more confusion than surprise:
{qaStaH nuq jay'} "What the hell is going on?" (from ST6, I think)
{chay'} "What the-?" (from TKD)
(Maybe you could add {jay'} to the previous example to get {chay' jay'} ("What the hell-?"), which has a nice rhyme to it.)
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Nope. As I wrote: There’s no official spelling but when Captain Nu'Daq was quickly and effortlessly defeated by Data in the *B'aht Qul* challenge (a form of Klingon arm wrestling), he exclaimed *Maw’tok!* in shock. (TNG "The Chase") --Voragh From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org] On Behalf Of mayqel qunenoS voragh quoting "tng the chase":
he exclaimed *Maw’tok!* in shock.
I guess we don't have a canon klingon spelling for maw'tok, right ? qunnoq On 16 Aug 2017 9:10 pm, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer@uchicago.edu<mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu>> wrote: (TKD 6.4): The question word chay' "how?" may be used as a one-word sentence meaning “How did this happen? What happened? What the--?” --Voragh From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org<mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org>] On Behalf Of nIqolay Q There's a few examples you could use when surprised, though the emotion they suggest is more confusion than surprise: {qaStaH nuq jay'} "What the hell is going on?" (from ST6, I think) {chay'} "What the-?" (from TKD) (Maybe you could add {jay'} to the previous example to get {chay' jay'} ("What the hell-?"), which has a nice rhyme to it.) _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org<mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org> http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org
We could try to make some sense of it, but it's guesswork which is unofficial. [script fragment st-minutiae 246] NU'DAQ (amazed) Maw' tok. We have a some likely words that have some meaning in context. {maw} "offend", {maw'} "be crazy", and the nearest sound-vaguely-alike {taQ} for "be weird" (it's easy for the sound of the Klingon "a" to drift into sounding more like a regular "o"). We could choose to interpret as two one-word sentences {maw'} "it's crazy" and {taQ} "it's weird". But there are many other possibilities. On Wednesday, 16 August 2017 19:28:55 BST Steven Boozer wrote:
Nope. As I wrote:
There’s no official spelling but when Captain Nu'Daq was quickly and effortlessly defeated by Data in the *B'aht Qul* challenge (a form of Klingon arm wrestling), he exclaimed *Maw’tok!* in shock. (TNG "The Chase")
--Voragh
One that comes to my mind is {toH} translated as "so, well" and "Aha". That may work for a surprise reaction, depending on situation, I think. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net
For a lesser surprise we have {'o}. On Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:45:11 BST nIqolay Q wrote:
Something along the lines of {'aaaa!}, I'm guessing.
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:15 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there a word/expression to say when you are suddenly surprised ?
Jeremy Silver:
For a lesser surprise we have {'o}.
I don't think {'o} can be used in this way; the {'o} appears before a name used as direct address. I don't think it can be used to express surprise. qunnoq jan puqloD On 16 Aug 2017 10:31 pm, "Jeremy Silver" <jp.silver@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
For a lesser surprise we have {'o}.
On Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:45:11 BST nIqolay Q wrote:
Something along the lines of {'aaaa!}, I'm guessing.
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:15 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there a word/expression to say when you are suddenly surprised ?
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lugh qunnoq jan puqloD. 'o 'oghlu'meH qul "O for a Muse of fire … " (KCD, prologue to Henry V) 'o meQ qul! 'o meQ chal! (KCD, opening of the opera qul tuq) 'o qeylIS, qeylIS, qeylIS qanjIt puqloD O Kahless, Kahless, Kahless, son of Kanjit (PB) (ghunchu'wI', 8/21/2011 < qep’a’ 2011): 'o appears before a name used as direct address. As we saw it used, it acted a little like a vocative prefix: 'o qeylIS, qeylIS, qeylIS... It seems to be an honorific exclamation, or maybe it's just used for direct address in general and doesn't actually have the implication of deference or reverence that I inferred. If it hadn't been consistently present when the opera "speaks to" Kahless, and consistently absent when it "speaks to" Molor, I might have ignored it as an unimportant background sound. (Qov, 8/21/2011 < qep’a’ 2011): Marc was present while we discussed the vocative case in that context and he didn't seem to object at all to that characterization. I know he has a talent for making you think he's confirmed whatever you think, but I think it's just a name-invoking particle without particular commendation. The funniest part, to me, was the next day when we were singing Kumbaya and watching Qanqor suddenly realize that we have being saying <<'o qeylIS>> all along. Marc was also dismissive about 'o, like it wasn't really a new word, was just 'o. --Voragh From: mayqel qunenoS Jeremy Silver:
For a lesser surprise we have {'o}.
I don't think {'o} can be used in this way; the {'o} appears before a name used as direct address. I don't think it can be used to express surprise. qunnoq jan puqloD On 16 Aug 2017 10:31 pm, "Jeremy Silver" <jp.silver@tiscali.co.uk<mailto:jp.silver@tiscali.co.uk>> wrote: For a lesser surprise we have {'o}. On Wednesday, 16 August 2017 18:45:11 BST nIqolay Q wrote:
Something along the lines of {'aaaa!}, I'm guessing.
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:15 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com<mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is there a word/expression to say when you are suddenly surprised ?
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There’s no official spelling but when Captain Nu'Daq was quickly and effortlessly defeated by Data in the *B'aht Qul* challenge (a form of Klingon arm wrestling), he exclaimed *Maw’tok!* in shock. (TNG "The Chase") You can also say {ghuy'cha'}: CK (audio): Here's another word with strong force. A Klingon might say it after receiving an unsettling communique. It's a LOT stronger than the Terran “Darn it!" --Voragh From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org] On Behalf Of mayqel qunenoS There are klingon words to express extreme anger (for example {Qu'vatlh}. Is there a word/expression to say when you are suddenly surprised ? qunnoq
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