The words we received from Maltz for this year's qepHom were not sorted by any system. I tried to arrange them by topics, which I will use in the subject line, so the discussions about the words are also sorted. ---- turmIq 'enDeq n. urinary bladder –Strictly, the noun 'enDeq refers to anatomy, but it can be used metaphorically in other contexts, which is the way it works in English. 'InSep n. penis qey'Hav n. vagina [refers to the entire thing, not only the exterior part] DaynguH n. testicle chI'ID n. uterus HID v. sweat, perspire SuynIj n. sweat, perspiration lun v. swell, swell up [wood can also swell up, so not only body parts] -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/NewWordsQepHom2018
From: "Lieven L. Litaerqey'Hav n. vagina[refers to the entire thing, not only the exterior part]>>This clarification is confusing as the vagina is an interior body part.
In English the word is often used to refer to the vulva as well. Scientifically the vagina does not include the vulva or cervix, but in casual usage the word can often refer to all those parts. Klingon seems to also include all those parts in the word qey'Hav. Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> ________________________________ From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> on behalf of Michael Roney, Jr. <nahqun@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 7:53:21 AM To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] qepHom 2018 - Anatomy From: "Lieven L. Litaer qey'Hav n. vagina [refers to the entire thing, not only the exterior part]
This clarification is confusing as the vagina is an interior body part.
Am 20.11.2018 um 14:53 schrieb Michael Roney, Jr.:
This clarification is confusing as the vagina is an interior body part.
Yes, true, I mixed up. So, again: Somebody asked whether it's vulva or vagina because in slang English the word can refer to both. The answer is that it's both, that means the entire system, not only one specific part. Speaking with my own words: We all know what it is, but a doctor might use different words. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/NewWordsQepHom2018
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 at 14:48, Lieven L. Litaer <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
turmIq 'enDeq n. urinary bladder –Strictly, the noun 'enDeq refers to anatomy, but it can be used metaphorically in other contexts, which is the way it works in English.
And when it is used metaphorically, does it take {-Du'} or {-mey} in the plural? Same question for {noq} when used for a bottle nipple. (I assume -{Du'} based on the precedent of {DeSqIv}, but then {neb} is sort of a counterexample.) -- De'vID
Am 22.11.2018 um 06:38 schrieb De'vID:
(I assume -{Du'} based on the precedent of {DeSqIv}, but then {neb} is sort of a counterexample.)
I'll get the longer answer later, but basically, Okrand said that "generally" bodypart words that are used for non-bodypart things still take the bodypart suffix, as in DeSqIv on a pot and Ho'Du' on a wheel. There are very few exceptions where the meaning or the connection to the body has been lost, so one uses -mey, such as nebmey on rockets. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/BodyParts
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