Apparently, the latter. Okrand once sent a note to SuStel: qep'a' wejDIchDaq jatlhtaH tlhIngan Hol HaDwI'pu'. ghoHtaH je. tIv'eghtaH je. (MO to SuStel, st.klingon 11/1996) AFAIK it’s our only example of {-Daq} and the ordinal number suffix {-Dich} used together. SuStel commented: (SuStel 12/18/1996): ... in answering my letter about qep'a' wejDIch, Marc Okrand used the phrase qep'a' wejDIchDaq. Now, it could be considered just a [proper] name, but it may also be possible that noun suffixes can go to the ordinal number. Voragh ____________________________________________________________________________ From: James Landau via tlhIngan-Hol Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2025 9:32 AM qep'a'Daq wejmaH cha'DIch Daghtujmeyraj tItIv! (Or should it be *qep'a' wejmaH cha'DIchDaq*?)