Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, September 22, 2023 Klingon word: barat Part of speech: noun Definition: India Source: TalkNow - Learn Klingon!, revealed 30 September 2011 This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh@kli.org).
Klingon word: barat Part of speech: noun Definition: India Source: TalkNow - Learn Klingon!, revealed 30 September 2011 _______________________________________________ AFAIK not used in a sentence. PUN: *Bharat Ganarajya* “the Republic of India” or simply *Bharat* < *Bharata*, the original Sanskrit name for the Indian subcontinent SEE ALSO: ‘aSya’ Asia (GN) -- Voragh, Ca'Non Master of the Klingons Please contribute relevant vocabulary from recent qep’a’mey or qepHommey. I’ve fallen woefully behind in updating my files.
On Fri, Sept 22, 2023, 16:49 Steven Boozer via tlhIngan-Hol < tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org> wrote:
Klingon word: barat Part of speech: noun Definition: India Source: TalkNow - Learn Klingon!, revealed 30 September 2011 _______________________________________________
AFAIK not used in a sentence.
PUN: *Bharat Ganarajya*
The word "pun" has been stretched on this mailing list to mean not just a joke based on words with different meanings that sound alike, but to any joke in the vocabulary at all, but this is surely not even that. The names of Earth countries in Klingon are frequently their names in one of its native or official languages, which is exactly what "Bharat" is. It's neither hidden nor intended to be a joke. -- De'vID
Then call it a borrowed word or, if you prefer, a transcribed localism (as most foreign geographical names tend to be - although it’s sometimes tricky to recognize them). Personally I think of them as mnemonics. Of course, {barat} would be a pun if it were Klingon for “cheap” (i.e. Spanish *barato*). However you classify them, recognizing them makes it easy, or at least easier, to remember. __ Voragh ______________________________________________________ From: De'vID via tlhIngan-Hol Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 10:19 AM On Fri, Sept 22, 2023, 16:49 Steven Boozer via tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org<mailto:tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org>> wrote: Klingon word: barat Part of speech: noun Definition: India Source: TalkNow - Learn Klingon!, revealed 30 September 2011 _______________________________________________ PUN: *Bharat Ganarajya* The word "pun" has been stretched on this mailing list to mean not just a joke based on words with different meanings that sound alike, but to any joke in the vocabulary at all, but this is surely not even that. The names of Earth countries in Klingon are frequently their names in one of its native or official languages, which is exactly what "Bharat" is. It's neither hidden nor intended to be a joke.
Technically, it’s a transliteration from the dominant language of the people within the named nation (which has many languages). The only reason that English… ahem… Federation Standard speakers don’t commonly recognize this is that we don’t speak that language. Except for Klingon vocabulary, the Star Trek Universe seems to have forgotten that everybody on Earth doesn’t speak English. The weird part of this is that the Star Trek Universe doesn’t recognize that different languages exist, except when it does, and that we’ve all learned so much about the only real exception developed to a vocabulary of over 5,000 words, with affixes expanding the scope of meaning to an equivalent of a much larger vocabulary. Offering a memory aid for this vocabulary is independent of describing the nature of the word. pItlh charghwI’ ‘utlh (ghaH, ghaH, -Daj)
On Sep 26, 2023, at 11:51 AM, ghunchu'wI' 'utlh via tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org> wrote:
On Sep 25, 2023, at 9:46 AM, Steven Boozer via tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org> wrote:
Then call it a borrowed word or, if you prefer, a transcribed localism
That is more appropriate. I believe it’s what De'vID would prefer you to do.
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