Klingon Word of the Day: Hotlh
Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, February 02, 2021 Klingon word: Hotlh Part of speech: verb Definition: scan Source: TKD This Klingon Word of the Day is brought to you by qurgh (qurgh@kli.org).
Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, February 02, 2021 Klingon word: Hotlh Part of speech: verb Definition: scan Source: TKD _______________________________________________ nuHotlhpu''a' Have they scanned us? (TKD) yIHotlh Scan it! (KGT) ngIq mIch wIHotlh we scan each individual sector one after the other we scan the sectors one by one (qepHom 2017) SEE: Hotlh project, put on (screen) (v) - yIHotlh "Put him on the screen!" (TKD) HotlhwI' scanner (n) SEE ALSO: juv measure (v) jem sense, feel, perceive, detect (v) nej look for, seek, search for (v) noch sensor (n) chuq'a' noch long-range sensors (n) (DSC) Hoqra' tricorder (n) nejwI' probe (n) -- Voragh, Ca'Non Master of the Klingons Please contribute relevant vocabulary from the last year or two. I’ve fallen behind in updating my files and adding cross-references for related words.
On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 at 16:07, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, February 02, 2021
Klingon word: Hotlh Part of speech: verb Definition: scan Source: TKD _______________________________________________
nuHotlhpu''a' Have they scanned us? (TKD)
yIHotlh Scan it! (KGT)
ngIq mIch wIHotlh we scan each individual sector one after the other we scan the sectors one by one (qepHom 2017)
SEE: Hotlh project, put on (screen) (v) - yIHotlh "Put him on the screen!" (TKD)
Has the two meanings of {Hotlh} ever been explained? Are they shades of the same word? Homophones which might be confusing? If I give the order {yIHotlh!}, am I expecting the target to both be scanned and displayed on screen? -- De'vID
AFAIK no, but I had the exact same thought. I gave all the examples of each that I know of. Note we have a derived noun {HotlhwI'} “scanner”. There is also the related verb {cha'} "show, display [picture]" which has been used quite a lot: DoS cha' Display target! STMP wIy cha' Display tactical! (Clipped) STMP wIy yIcha' Show the tactical display! TKD/KCD HaSta yIcha' Show the visual display! TKD mIvwIjDaq poghlIj vIcha' I display your glove on my helmet. KGT tlhIngan Dujmey law'qu' SommeyDaq batlh cha'lu' [It] has been emblazoned upon the hulls of countless Klingon starships. SP1 motlh ray' luSamlaHmeH De' Qatlh cha' tlhIngan Duj jIH'a' The main viewer on a Klingon ship is usually overlaid with a complex target acquisition grid. SP3 'echletHom Dopvam yIcha' card must be turned this side up MKE {bama/mIyanma} Hol mu'mey cha'be' [FaceBook]. mI'mey neH cha'. [untranslated] (MO to Andre on FaceBook, 2/11/2014) nIteb chegh molor ngIq ghoqwI' joqwI''e' cha'bogh qeylIS luDel 'e' ra' molor One by one Molor's scouts return, He asks them which banner Kahless marches under (PB) DI'raq Dacha'meH yIDIj Paint [a picture of] a sheep! Draw a sheep! [Lieven < MO, 9/03/2018] DI'raq Dacha'meH nav yIDIj Draw a sheep on the paper!" [Lieven < MO, 9/03/2018] DI'raq Dacha'meH nagh beQ yIDIj Paint the stone panel with [a picture of] a sheep! ("Paint the stone panel with a pigment stick so that you display a sheep!") [Lieven < MO, 9/03/2018] DIDaq Hoch Doch wIqorta'bogh bavmeH He cha'. This is the orbit of every object we have scavenged through in the debris field. (DSC "The Butcher's Knife Cares Not for the Lamb's Cry" NON-CANON) -- Voragh ================================================================ From: De'vID Has the two meanings of {Hotlh} ever been explained? Are they shades of the same word? Homophones which might be confusing? If I give the order {yIHotlh!}, am I expecting the target to both be scanned and displayed on screen? On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 at 16:07, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu<mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu>> wrote: Klingon Word of the Day for Tuesday, February 02, 2021 Klingon word: Hotlh Part of speech: verb Definition: scan _______________________________________________ nuHotlhpu''a' Have they scanned us? (TKD) yIHotlh Scan it! (KGT) ngIq mIch wIHotlh we scan each individual sector one after the other we scan the sectors one by one (qepHom 2017) SEE: Hotlh project, put on (screen) (v) - yIHotlh "Put him on the screen!" (TKD)
On 2/4/2021 10:27 AM, Steven Boozer wrote:
DoS cha'
Display target! STMP
I don't think there was ever a /Display target!/ line in /Star Trek: The Motion Picture./ The line was subtitled/Visual!/ and interpreted by Okrand as *HaSta.* -- SuStel http://trimboli.name
Hmm… it’s not in my notes for that scene. I wonder how that line got into my dictionary. Is there a transcript online we can check? -- Voragh From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> On Behalf Of SuStel On 2/4/2021 10:27 AM, Steven Boozer wrote: DoS cha' Display target! STMP I don't think there was ever a Display target! line in Star Trek: The Motion Picture. The line was subtitled Visual! and interpreted by Okrand as HaSta.
On 2/4/2021 10:48 AM, Steven Boozer wrote:
Hmm… it’s not in my notes for that scene. I wonder how that line got into my dictionary.
Is there a transcript online we can check?
Here's the scene: https://youtu.be/kbG3N51MEjM?t=62 1:15 *wIy cha' //*/TACTICAL.../ 1:35 *HaSta * /VISUAL.../ 1:42 *cha yIghuS * /TACTICAL, STAND BY ON TORPEDOES./ /1:52 *SSS * //READY.../ 1:56 *baH * /FIRE!/ 2:23 *juntaH * /EVASIVE!/ 4:10 *SSS * (untranslated) 4:19 something which might be *baH* or might be something else (untranslated) **
-- Voragh
* From:*tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> *On Behalf Of *SuStel
On 2/4/2021 10:27 AM, Steven Boozer wrote:
DoS cha' Display target! STMP
I don't think there was ever a /Display target!/ line in /Star Trek: The Motion Picture./ The line was subtitled/Visual!/ and interpreted by Okrand as *HaSta.*
-- SuStel http://trimboli.name
Thanks for checking. I’ve removed the offending phrase from my records. BTW are you sure you didn’t hear {‘eH}? Perhaps you thought it a grunt or a hesitation sound? (I can’t check, as my computer doesn’t play sound.) In my notes I have: 'eH! Ready! STMP (response to a command, i.e. "Standing by") [This was one of the eleven original Klingon words created by James Doohan and Jon Povill, spoken by Mark Lenard (through a set of prosthetic teeth) in the opening scene of STMP which Marc Okrand subsequently used as the basis for tlhIngan Hol.] (TKD p.57): {SuH}, {Su'} and {'eH} all mean that the speaker is about to give a command. They are comparable to the "Ready!" at the beginning of a race: "Ready! Set! Go!" {SuH} and {Su'}, but not {'eH}, can also be used to indicate that the speaker is ready to do something or that arrangements have been made for something to happen. Some speakers of Klingon pronounce {SuH} as if it were {SSS}, almost like the English expression for "be quiet": shhh! If {‘eH} wasn’t in STMP, I wonder where Okrand got it and why he felt the need to group it with {SuH} / {Su’} / {SSS} in TKD. AFAIK it appears nowhere else. -- Voragh ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> On Behalf Of SuStel On 2/4/2021 10:48 AM, Steven Boozer wrote: Hmm… it’s not in my notes for that scene. I wonder how that line got into my dictionary. Is there a transcript online we can check? Here's the scene: https://youtu.be/kbG3N51MEjM?t=62<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/youtu.be/kbG3N51MEjM?t=62__;!!BpyFHLRN4TMTrA!v9h0bYCB14fXcqco8DhoZrgbAo3RW5gI_Xj_nGmS1jqZm1TI9gka8kS4S4XO96zjUac$> 1:15 wIy cha' TACTICAL... 1:35 HaSta VISUAL... 1:42 cha yIghuS TACTICAL, STAND BY ON TORPEDOES. 1:52 SSS READY... 1:56 baH FIRE! 2:23 juntaH EVASIVE! 4:10 SSS (untranslated) 4:19 something which might be baH or might be something else (untranslated) -- Voragh From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org><mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> On Behalf Of SuStel On 2/4/2021 10:27 AM, Steven Boozer wrote: DoS cha' Display target! STMP I don't think there was ever a Display target! line in Star Trek: The Motion Picture. The line was subtitled Visual! and interpreted by Okrand as HaSta.
On 2/4/2021 12:37 PM, Steven Boozer wrote:
BTW are you sure you didn’t hear {‘eH}? Perhaps you thought it a grunt or a hesitation sound? (I can’t check, as my computer doesn’t play sound.)
Yeah, it's probably *'eH.* I had to put on headphones to distinguish it, though. The second one definitely sounds like "ishhh." -- SuStel http://trimboli.name
Am 04.02.2021 um 16:48 schrieb Steven Boozer:
Hmm… it’s not in my notes for that scene. I wonder how that line got into my dictionary.
Is there a transcript online we can check?
The Klingon wiki has them all. http://klingon.wiki/En/ST1 -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.tlhInganHol.com http://klingon.wiki/En/PortalStarTrek
Am 04.02.2021 um 16:48 schrieb Steven Boozer:
Hmm… it’s not in my notes for that scene. I wonder how that line got into my dictionary.
The first mentioning of this phrase originated in a transcript by Michael Everson in a message to the mailing list of 1992. I guess you took it from there. http://diswww.mit.edu/charon.MIT.EDU/ja%27chuq/210 -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.tlhInganHol.com http://klingon.wiki/En/ST1
Very likely. If someone says that they heard "XYZ", I generally take them at their word though I do try to record the source -- because, sooner or later, someone will question it. Thanks Lieven. -- Voragh -----------------------------------Original Message---------------------------------------- From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> On Behalf Of Lieven L. Litaer Am 04.02.2021 um 16:48 schrieb Steven Boozer:
Hmm… it’s not in my notes for that scene. I wonder how that line got into my dictionary.
The first mentioning of this phrase originated in a transcript by Michael Everson in a message to the mailing list of 1992. I guess you took it from there. http://diswww.mit.edu/charon.MIT.EDU/ja%27chuq/210
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