Okay, I've no idea what "topic noun" or "clause" is, because at the brain factory, someone forgot to install in my brain the "ability to understand grammar terms" circuit.. But I wrote the title this way because it sounds cool.. Anyways, lets get to the point.. Suppose I write a looong passage, with regards to romulans who feed a cat. At the story there is a third party, which is "we". At some point, I want to say "we respect the romulans who see the cat". Normally, that would be: {vIghro' luje'bogh romuluSnganpu' DIvuv} The question now is: At the klingon sentence above, do I *have* to write/include the {romuluSnganpu'} ? Would it be correct to just write {vIghro' luje'bogh DIvuv}, with the {DI-} obviously referring to the (obviously) plural subject of {je'} ? Remember, that the passage is looong, that there are only three parties involved (the cat, the romulans, and us), and that by the time we come to the need to write the sentence we talk about, it's crystal clear that it is the romulans we respect. ~ m. qunen'oS