Suppose we write the following: Duj'e' DaH yIQaw' destroy the vessel now Duj'e' vIjemchoHpu' I have begun to sense the vessel Duj'e' Hotlhpu'bogh yuQ yIQaw' destroy the vessel which has been scanned by the planet So far so good. But if on the above examples we wanted to say {Duj cha'} "vessel number two", where would we need to place the {-'e'}? On the {Duj} or on the number {cha'}? I tend to think that since the {-'e'} migrates in the case of ordinals e.g. {Duj cha'DIch'e'} instead of {Duj'e' cha'DIch}, then it would be logical to assume that the {-'e'} will migrate even in the case of numbers used for numbering. So, logically, in cases as the examples above the correct choice would seemingly/apparently be {Duj cha''e'} for "vessel number two": Duj cha''e' DaH yIQaw' destroy the vessel number two now Duj cha''e' vIjemchoHpu' I have begun to sense the vessel number two Duj cha''e' Hotlhpu'bogh yuQ yIQaw' destroy the vessel number two which has been scanned by the planet -- Dana'an https://sacredtextsinklingon.wordpress.com/ Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ