On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 3:53 PM SuStel via tlhIngan-Hol < tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org> wrote:
On 11/20/2022 12:22 AM, zrajm via tlhIngan-Hol wrote:
So, what do you think? Is «je jIH» better than «jIH je»? And what are you arguments for your belief? – Or should the phrase be avoided altogether and expressed some other way? How?
{jIH je} strikes me as an Anglicism: an attempt to import a common English expression into Klingon by direct translation.
It might happen to work in some situations, like: Person 1: tlhIngan jIH. Person 2: [tlhIngan] jIH je. I would see a response like the above as an elision of the word {tlhIngan} based on context. However, I don't think it works in a situation like this: Person 1: jIDoy'. Person 2: jIH je.* {je jIH} strikes me as just wrong.
In my opinion, the Klingon equivalent to *me too* is to repeat the verb in the first person and add a *je.* For example:
Klingon 1: *romuluSnganpu' vImuS!* *I hate Romulans!* Klingon 2: *vImuS je!* *Me too!*
Klingon 1: *SIbI' ruchbe'chugh chaH, jImej.* * If they don't get on with it right now, I'm leaving. *Klingon 2: *jImej je!* *Me too!*
That's also my perception. This is partly informed by the joke from Power Klingon: 'avwI'vaD jatlh qama'; jIghung. jang 'avwI'; jIghung je. jatlh qama'; jI'oj. jang 'avwI'; jI'oj je. jatlh qama'; jIDoy'qu'. jatlh 'avwI'; jIDoy'be'. -- De'vID