On 6/13/2019 7:15 PM, Daniel Dadap wrote:
On Jun 13, 2019, at 08:59, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name <mailto:sustel@trimboli.name>> wrote:
*DaqvamDaq yIghoS* (commanding multiple people)
… poD vay' …
Meanwhile, *DaqvamDaq peghoS* would mean that while you are in this place, you should go somewhere.
Thanks. That matched my understanding.
I’ve seen “locative” used for {-Daq} before but until your recent message I don’t think I’ve seen “ablative” for {-vo'}. Is this a common convention, or just something that you use personally? Could {-vaD} be described as “dative”, using this same alien grammatical terminology? Maybe causal for {-mo'}?
Most people don't say /ablative,/ but it fits, is convenient, and corresponds to /locative./ *-vaD* isn't dative because it's also benefactive. You could use /dative/ or /benefactive/ when describing a sentence that clearly has one or the other of these senses, but they're not separate noun cases in Klingon. Unless there is a noun case out there that combines these two, /dative/benefactive/ is the best you're going to get. /Causal/ works for *-mo',* but I prefer /causative,/ simply because it fits in with the others. These are just words to describe Klingon, not inherent properties of the language. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name