On 10 August 2017 at 20:33, Lieven <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
2. Things done by Klingonists in which Okrand had major involvement (paq'batlh... anything else in this category?)
This is cat. 1 for me, as the book says "translated by Okrand". He did a lot of work on this, even though not 100%, but he has obviously approved and/or vetted it.
I'm inclined to agree. I only separated it because it has some weird grammar and some people think the Klingon is of lower quality than category #1 canon.
3. Things done by Klingonists in which Okrand had some involvement (I'm not sure the extent of his involvement in Klingon Christmas Carol? Maybe that belongs in category #2?... TalkNow! Klingon, Festival of the Spoken Nerd)
AKCC does NOT count as canon to me, but TNK dfinitely does, Okrand approved all of it.
Well, when I worked on the Festival of the Spoken Nerd subtitles, I wrote the translations as best as I could using words we knew then, sent them to Okrand with requests about the gaps, and he replied back with suggestions or new words, for a few rounds. At the end he approved my translation, but I would only consider the words and definitions he supplied to be canon. The final subtitles, I would say, were my work (and not canon). Granted, this is different from TNK which is basically just a list of words and not full sentences. I don't know how much contact Qov had with Okrand about DSC, but the difference with DSC is of course that her work will appear on an official show. -- De'vID