mIp'av:
{net jalchugh} bop'a' mu'meylIj Qav? 'angpu'chugh matlh, vaj jIjIv.
Yes, they do. The {net jalchugh}, was revealed by maltz. See earlier in the thread the message from lieven, but in case you missed it, here it is again: ------- lieven message beginning ------- I wanted to wait until after the qepHom, but as you mentioned this topic, here is what Maltz has revealed to us just now: ------begin------ For a statement that's counterfactual (or "irrealis"), a phrase with the verb jal ("imagine, envision") is used: ... net jalchugh ("if one imagines that…", "if it is imagined that…"). For example: tlhIngan SoH net jalchugh, qagh DatIv This is "If you were a Klingon, you would enjoy gagh" or, literally, "If one imagines that you are a Klingon, you would enjoy gagh." The implication is that you are not a Klingon. Compare: qaghwIj DaSopchugh, qaHoH "If you eat my gagh, I'll kill you." qaghwIj DaSop net jalchugh, qaHoH "If you were eating my gagh, I would kill you" (literally: "If one imagines that you are eating my gagh…"). -------end------- ------- lieven message end ------- qunnoH jan puqloD 2016-11-07 6:52 GMT+02:00 Ed Bailey <bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com>:
{net jalchugh} bop'a' mu'meylIj Qav? 'angpu'chugh matlh, vaj jIjIv.
ngoD laj vaj, 'ach qaSbe'bogh wanI'qoq buSHa' SuvwI' neH 'e' DaHarchugh, bImuj. jallaHqu' tlhIngan tej 'ach wanI'qoqmeyvam SaHbe' je 'e' vIHar. toj'egh neHbe' 'ej poH natlh neHbe'. qaSbe'bogh wanI'qoq qelmeH qaSpu'bogh wanI'na' buSHa'nIS, 'a wanI'na' buSHa'qangbe'. meqvammo' loQ wIHnIS. QapmeH loQ wIHnIS tera'ngan tej je, vaj tlhIngan tej rurnIS. wanI'na' wanI'qoq je jojHeyDaq majoqtaHvIS, mapay pagh mabIt'eghmoH 'a DI'ruj wIbambe'. yab Sengvammo' tlhIngan vonbe'lu', vaj nughojmoHlaH tlhIngan.
tlhoy jalQo'meH tlhIngan, latlh meq tu'lu', 'a chaq Doghlaw'. qo' jallu'bogh luDab tlhIngan, vaj nuq lujal tlhIngan? qo'Hommey jal'a'? qo'HomHommey jal'a' qo'Homngan? ghorgh Dor mIwvam? 'a jIDachchoH.
meqmey law'mo' tlhIngan vIjal 'ej 'e' vItIv. DaH meqmeywIj wa' vIja'. maDogh Human mut 'e' lu'anglaH tlhIngan. wanI' DuHbe' wIjalmeH poH wInatlh 'e' lu'ang tlhIngan. maHvaD neSlo' lumuch tlhIngan.
~mIp'av
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