Resurrecting an old message... On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 at 15:15, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
De'vID:
While going through my lexicon to clean it up, I came across several names (of people) for whom I don't have a canonical source annotated: {Day joH}, {qeylIn}, {qeylor}, {qunI'vaS},
Does anyone know where they are from?
[snip sources for {Day joH}, {qeylIn}, and {qeylor}]
{qunI'vaS} Kunivas
Spelling from TKW of a character in TNG "Heart of Glory"
Lieven just alerted me to the fact that {qunI'vaS} isn't found in TKW, and I flipped through the book myself and couldn't find it either. Does anyone know if it's canon or where it's from? Looking through the mailing list archives, it looks like it was KWOTD on Mar. 24, 2000, with "TKW" listed as the source: https://www.kli.org/tlhIngan-Hol/2000/March/msg00343.html Going further back, it was included in a list of names "from TKW" on May 24, 1998: https://www.kli.org/tlhIngan-Hol/1998/May/msg00463.html However, that list contains many names which are obviously not canonical (e.g., *{qulgh}, *{qern} which have impossible phonology). It looks to me like the poster intended to provide a list of the names of Klingons which appeared in TKW *in English* (e.g., "Klag", "B'Elanna", "Kern"), along with *their* attempt at "translating" them back into Klingon, but this was misread as a list of Klingon names (i.e., actually written in Klingon) from TKW. However, as far as I can tell, "Kunivas" does not even appear in English in that book, although the names of two other Klingons from the same episode, Konmel and Korris, both do (but only in English), and are given Klingon translations in that list. So, unless someone can come up with a canon source for {qunI'vaS}, I'll be removing it from {boQwI'}. (Or maybe I should tag the entry as non-canon with a note about its apparent history.) Those of you keeping word lists yourselves should do the same. -- De'vID