On 7/31/2017 10:20 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
SuStel:
jatlhqu'meH tlhIngan Hol naQ law' Quenya naQ puS jIH: Or is it rather "in order that he/they speaks/speak a lot, klingon is more complete than quenya" ? SuStel My intention was is the last one Perhaps the reason of my confusion, becomes clearer now. If instead of {jatlhqu'meH tlhIngan Hol naQ law' Quenya naQ puS}, we had {jatlhqu'lu'meH tlhIngan Hol naQ law' Quenya naQ puS} meaning "in order for someone to speak..", then I could have understood the meaning better. Reading the {jatlhqu'meH tlhIngan Hol naQ law' Quenya naQ puS} and understanding "in order that he/they speaks/speak a lot, klingon is more complete than quenya", I begun to wonder who the "he/they" was/were. Let alone that I did the mistake of thinking that the {tlhIngan Hol} was part of the {meH}ed construction, as opposed to the law'/puS construction.
I'm not sure that would have helped. You weren't interpreting *tlhIngan Hol* as the subject of *jatlhqu'meH;* you were interpreting it as the head noun of *jatlhqu'meH.* Adding a *-lu'* wouldn't have changed anything. Klingon purpose clauses are often used in a sort of infinite way. You don't say *ghojlu'meH taj;* you say *ghojmeH taj.* A subject is not always necessary or even implied. Sometimes it is speculated that you need a subject if the purpose clause attaches to a sentence instead of a noun, but we don't really know, and no survey of canon has been done recently on that. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name