In TKD 4.2.2, it says that: "This suffix [{-vIp}] is rarely used with a prefix meaning 'I' or 'we'. Though it is grammatically correct, it is culturally taboo." In TKD 4.3, in illustrating the rover {-qu'}, the following example sentences appear: {pIHoHvIpbe'qu'} "We are NOT afraid to kill you" {pIHoHvIpqu'be'} "We are not AFRAID to kill you" {pIHoHqu'vIpbe'} "We are not afraid to KILL you" It is then explained under which circumstances each of those sentences might be used. These sentences use the prefix {pI-}, which is "we-you", so it seems at first glance that those sentences satisfy the requirement of the taboo. The unnegated version, {pIHoHvIp} "we are afraid to kill you", is without question culturally taboo. However, does the fact that {-vIp} is negated by {-be'} change this? It's not explicitly stated, but it seems to me that a statement like "I am not afraid to fight you" would not be culturally taboo to say for a Klingon. However, in a discussion with a skilled Klingon speaker, it came up that he believes that that statement is still culturally taboo because it satisfies the description in TKD 4.2.2. I think that this is one of those cases where the TKD is giving a sketch, and the reader is supposed to work out that the opposite of a taboo statement is not taboo, but admittedly there is no evidence to support this in TKD itself. What do others think? -- De'vID