On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 5:36 PM, David Holt <kenjutsuka@live.com> wrote:
I have a project I'm working on and I would like to figure out the most efficient way to elicit the image of rendered fat as a thing. Is {tlhag} the subject of {'Im} and thus {'Impu'wI'} might work? Or is {tlhag} the object of {'Im} and thus we might have to go with the unwieldy {tlhagh 'Imlu'pu'bogh}? What about {-wI'} with {-lu'} - {'Imlu'pu'wI'}?
Jeremy
Oh, boy, the {-lu'} plus {-wI'} thing again! I so wish MO would finally rule on this, since it's immediately obvious to some this combination nominalizes the same way as "-ee" in "employee," but others regard the construction as grammatical gibberish, and they seem to have convinced most to avoid using it. (I can't help but suspect the difficulty with {-lu'} plus {-wI'} has a lot to do with a programming background, since the objection is often phrased as "I can't make that mean anything," which sounds a lot like a compiler error to me.) "Boil" can take an object or not, of course, but the online OED gives only transitive definitions for "render": "Melt down (fat) in order to clarify it. *‘the fat was being cut up and rendered for lard’* Process (the carcass of an animal) in order to extract proteins, fats, and other usable parts. *‘the rendered down remains of sheep’ "* So I'd expect {tlhag} is the object of {'Im}. 'ej bIjatlhchugh <'Imlu'pu'wI'>, vay' 'Imlu'pu'bogh 'oH 'e' SIbI' vIyaj. ~mIp'av