peqIm, in preparation of his trip to the qepHom, Maltz has slipped some interesting details about the use of the verb {jeS}: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- The verb {jeS} ("participate") does not take an object. It generally is in a phrase following a phrase saying what the subject of {jeS} is participating in. All of the following can be translated as "I participate in the qepHom," though the literal meaning of each is distinct: qaStaHvIS qepHom jIjeS ["While the qepHom is happening, I participate"] qaS qepHom ’ej jIjeS ["The qepHom is happening, and I participate"] qaS qepHom vaj jIjeS ["The qepHom is happening, so I participate"] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net