Am 02.10.2016 um 23:33 schrieb SuStel:
What is wrong with it? {vIponglu'} does specify a first person object.
You're right; I was forgetting it had *-lu'* on it.
Hm... wait a second. First I was going to object, saying that vI- has a third person object. But I looked closer and remembered that {-lu'} reverses that. So it IS true that the /word/ has a first person object, but the prefix itself does NOT. If this form is correct - and I think we all agree, because it sounds okay - then I think this may be a new amendment to the existing "rule". AS far as I remember, Okrand has only talked about using "pronominal prefix indicating a first- or second-person object", not any verb . Many people explain that {vI-[...]-lu'} is similar to {mu-[...]-vay'} then it really does make sense to say {taj vInoblu'} I know for some this may be nitpicking, but I think it's worth to be mentioned, and I'll add it to the Klingon wiki. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net