Am 21.02.2020 um 18:42 schrieb SuStel:
The word is /genitive./ The first noun [...]
*bIQ bal* /water jug [...] Apposition, on the other hand, is where two nouns or noun phrases are side by side, and one further identifies the other.
Okay, I think I understand. But how is the following interpreted then? We were told the word {wab labwI'} means "radio". We were also told that if it was need to distinguish the broadcaster from the device, you may add {jan}. Expanding this, I could probably say {wab labwI' qach}, {wab labwI' malja'}, {wab labwI' loD}... etc. The second part of this nn-construction might be labeled as "identifier". I may even accept that it's still a genetive construction, BUT why is it turned around? For instance, in {bIQ bal} the identifier comes first: WATER bottle instead of "BEER bottle". In the phrase {wab labwI' jan}, it's not {wab labwI'} identifiying the kind of {jan}, it's the {jan} word which is telling you what kind of {wab labwI'} you talk about. In addition to thins thought, {wab labwI'} CAN stand alone and still mean the same when context is clear. If the word {bIQ} stands alone, it is never connected to the idea of a bottle, but {bal} is. Compare this: {wab labwI' vIpoQ. wab labwI' jan vIpoQ.} I need a radio. I mean, a radio DEVICE. {bal vIpoQ. bIQ bal vIpoQ.} "I need a bottle. I mean, a WATER bottle" See the difference? Now this is my serious question: Where is the difference? And does it have a name? -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/Apposition