Something weird came to mind.. romuluSngan chaH they are romulans jagh chaH romuluSngan'e' the romulans are enemies pa' chaHtaH romuluSngan'e' the romulans are there Now forget the romulans, and assume we want to say "they are there", without specifying who these "they" actually are. Shouldn't we write the following? pa' chaHtaH chaH'e' they are there Wouldn't this be the correct way to say it? It seems weird, but I can't see anything wrong with it. The only alternative I could thing of is writing just {pa' chaHtaH}. But the only meanings I get from this are: 1. "they continuously are the there". 2. "they are there" but the the identity of these "they" isn't just something unspecified, but rather something missing from the sentence. In other words, this sentence feels like someone saying "there, are the.." and that's it. So, the only reasonable choice is saying {pa' chaHtaH chaH'e'}. But am I correct on this? ~ Dana'an o eH aH o e Ha HaH