I'm not sure. I am curious as to why {marqagh puqloD} is also tagged with {-'e'}. It makes sense to tag {molor Duy} with {-'e'} as {Duy} is the subject of {ghaHtaH}, not {molor}: qatlh ngemDaq ghaHtaH molor Duy'e' Why is Molor's envoy in the woods? Do both parts of a name + patronymic need to be so tagged since the formula is an apposition? Do we have any other examples of {X Y puqloD/puqbe'} tagged with 'e'? (This is the only one I know of.) I don't recognize the name. Do we know that Markag is, in fact, the father of Molor? Is he mentioned anywhere else in the paq'batlh? I wonder... has this line been changed in PB 2nd edition? -- Voragh ---------------------------Original Message------------------------- From: luis.chaparro--- via tlhIngan-Hol Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 6:29 AM *qatlh ngemDaq ghaHtaH molor Duy'e' marqagh puqloD’e’ Hop juHlIj nov* What is an envoy of Molor, Son of Markag, doing in these woods? You are far away from home, stranger. (paq'yav 3, 1-3) Maybe I'm understanding this wrong, but wouldn't that mean that the envoy is the son of Markag? Since *'e'* gives us the reference for *ghaHtaH*, *ghaHtaH* = *molor Duy* and *ghaHtaH* = *marqagh puqloD*: He is an envoy of Molor and he is the son of Markag. Shouldn't it have been something like *molor marqagh puqloD Duy'e'*? Or maybe *molor Duy'e' marqagh puqloD Duy'e'*? By the way: A bit later we see *molor QaS HoS* for *The men of mighty Molor*. Why isn't it *molor HoS QaS*? http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org