On 8/29/2017 10:45 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
However, lets return to the {-chuqmoH}. We have the canon sentence {Qo'noS tuqmey muvchuqmoH qeylIS}.
As you wrote: "There are two ways to interpret muvchuqmoH: [muvchuq]moH he (singular subject) causes them (plural object) to join each other and [muv]chuq[moH] they (plural, reflexive subject) cause each other to join."
So, if I understand correctly what has been explained so far, then the following two sentences are correct:
{verengan Duj vIHIvchuqmoH jIH} I caused the ferengi ships to attack each other
{HIvchuqmoH verengan Duj} the ferengi ships caused each other to attack each other
That last one is /the Ferengi ships cause each other to attack/ or /the Ferengi ship causes someone unspecified to attack each other./ In neither case does the subject attack itself.
But if I wrote:
{verengan Duj luHIvchuqmoH cha' Duj nov} two alien ships caused each other to attack the ferengi ship
{verengan Duj DIHIvchuqmoH maH tlhIH je} We and you caused each other to attack the ferengi ships
Then both of these sentences are wrong.
Is my understanding correct ?
Yes. Unless Klingon allows reflexive verbs to also take objects, which there is, I think, slight evidence of. For example, the thinking goes that you can't say *tuqlIj qun wIja'chuq.* -- SuStel http://trimboli.name