De'vID, be''etlh, and voragh thank you for replying. De'vID:
I can't recall any rule that says you can't have {'e'} as the object of a verb with {-bogh}, but it's ugly.
I agree. The original sentence {jeSlaH ghoj neHbogh nuvpu'} seemed weird to me too, with my original confusion being whether the {nuvpu'} could be the subject of the {jeSlaH}, since it was so far away from it. be''etlh:
bIghoj bIneHchugh, bIjeSlaH
Indeed, this is a much better way to convey the intended meaning. Thanks. voragh:
You’re both forgetting the rarely-used Type 2 suffix {-qang} “is willing to”
I forgot this too.. Strangely, there are some suffixes which I almost always forget, however as soon as someone reminds them to me, I realise how they could solve the problem. mayqel On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
You’re both forgetting the rarely-used Type 2 suffix {-qang} “is willing to”. E.g.:
qaja'qang I am willing to tell you (TKD)
QaHqang He/she is willing to help. (KGT)
Heghqang he/she is willing to die (TKD)
HeghqangmoHlu'pu' It made him willing to die. (TKD)
vaSvamDaq tuq veng je quvvaD Heghqangbogh SuvwI’ tu’be’lu’’a’ Is there nobody in this hall prepared to die for the honor of your tribe and city? (PB)
So how about:
jeSlaH ghojqangbogh nuvpu'
those willing to learn can participate (“the people who are willing to learn are able to participate”)
--Voragh
From: Elizabeth Faber
I think you are trying to translate the English too directly. How about:
jeSlaH ghojwI'pu'
learners can participate
That's the cleanest translation I can come up with, and while its not exact it would serve most purposes. If you really want to make it conditional on volition, it would be at least somewhat less awkward with -chugh
ghoj neHchugh jeSlaH
If (he/one) wants to learn, (he/one) can participate
I like the phrasing better in second person
Daghoj bIneHchugh, bIjeSlaH
or
bIghoj bIneHchugh, bIjeSlaH
I think these last two convey your sentiment the most exactly without sounding terribly awkward in Klingon
-be''etlh
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 11:54 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
Is the following sentence correct ?
{jeSlaH ghoj neHbogh nuvpu'}
the people who want to learn are able to participate
mayqel
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